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Conversations For Workable Government
REPORT #227, JUNE 2015
LITTLE HOOVER COMMISSION
DEDICATED TO PROMOTING ECONOMY AND
EFFICIENCY IN CALIFORNIA STATE GOVERNMENT
To Promote Economy and Efficiency
Little Hoover Commission The Little Hoover Commission, formally known as the Milton
Marks “Little Hoover” Commission on California State Government
Pedro Nava
Organization and Economy, is an independent state oversight agency.
Chairman
Loren Kaye
By statute, the Commission is a bipartisan board composed of five
Vice Chairman
public members appointed by the governor, four public members
Katcho Achadjian appointed by the Legislature, two senators and two assemblymembers.
Assemblymember
David Beier In creating the Commission in 1962, the Legislature declared its p urpose:
Anthony Cannella
...to secure assistance for the Governor and itself in promoting economy,
Senator
efficiency and improved services in the transaction of the public business
Jack Flanigan
in the various d epartments, agencies and instrumentalities of the executive
branch of the state government, and in making the operation of all state
Don Perata
departments, agencies and instrumentalities, and all expenditures of
Sebastian Ridley-Thomas
public funds, more directly responsive to the wishes of the people as
Assemblymember
expressed by their elected representatives...
Richard Roth
Senator
The Commission fulfills this charge by listening to the public,
David A. Schwarz consulting with the experts and conferring with the wise. In the course
of its investigations, the Commission typically empanels advisory
Jonathan Shapiro
committees, c onducts public hearings and visits government operations
Sumi Sousa in action.
Commission Staff
Its conclusions are submitted to the Governor and the Legislature for
their consideration. Recommendations often take the form of l egislation,
Carole D’Elia
Executive Director which the Commission supports through the legislative process.
Jim Wasserman
Deputy Executive Director
Ciana Gallardo
Research Analyst Contacting the Commission
All correspondence should be addressed to the Commission Office:
Little Hoover Commission
925 L Street, Suite 805,
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 445-2125
littlehoover@lhc.ca.gov
This report is available from the Commission’s website at www.lhc.ca.gov.
State of California
LITTLE HOOV ER COMMIS S ION
June 25, 2015
Pedro Nava The Honorable Kevin de León The Honorable Bob Huff
Chairman
President pro Tempore of the Senate Senate Minority Leader
Loren Kaye
and members of the Senate
Vice Chairman
Katcho Achadjian The Honorable Toni G. Atkins The Honorable Kristin Olsen
Assemblymember
Speaker of the Assembly Assembly Minority Leader
David Beier
and members of the Assembly
Anthony Cannella
Senator
Jack Flanigan Dear Governor and Members of the Legislature:
Loren Kaye
Don Perata First among the fundamental planks of clean, open government in a complex society
Sebastian Ridley-Thomas such as California are transparency laws that balance the public’s right to observe and
Assemblymember
participate in government with officials’ need to effectively administer it. In the past
Richard Roth
that balance could often tilt toward excessive secrecy. But today’s Californians have
Senator
powerful access to government and strong rights to watch and weigh in on deliberations
David Schwarz
that shape decisions and policy.
Jonathan Shapiro
Sumi Sousa
Still, the state’s transparency laws need fine-tuning. The Commission urges the
Carole D’Elia
Executive Director Legislature and Governor to reconsider the statutory language of California’s Bagley-
Keene Open Meeting Act for state government and the Ralph M. Brown Act for local
government. Specifically, the Commission recommends minor adjustments to the
statutes to provide state and local appointed and elected officials more ability to discuss
general policy issues among themselves outside of public meetings – while continuing to
prevent them from reaching agreement on votes or decisions. California’s open meeting
acts, first enacted in 1953, are well-intentioned and fiercely defended. But some now
argue – and the Commission agrees – that unfortunate side effects of altering these laws
in recent years hinders a modern, administrative state’s ability to govern itself
effectively.
Simultaneously, the Commission recommends retaining and enforcing the varied ex
parte policies regarding private conversations held between public officials in the
executive branch of state government and those who try to influence them. The
Commission opposes moves to ban these private so-called ex parte conversations –
campaigns driven by allegations of improper conversations between the California
Public Utilities Commission and the utilities it regulates. It suggests, however, that
agencies consider whether additional transparency and accountability measures may be
helpful to provide Californians greater insight into state government decision-making.
For 10 months the Little Hoover Commission has examined the unforeseen impacts of
changing the Brown Act for local government in 2008 and incorporating the changes in
2009 to the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act for state government. The actions were
sponsored with commendable intent by media and First Amendment interests in the
wake of a confusing 2006 state appeals court ruling.
Milton Marks Commission on California State Government Organization and Economy http://www.lhc.ca.gov/
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But Commissioners have learned that the changes prompted a new uncertainty among elected
and appointed state and local officials and their staffs regarding their rights to discuss general
policy issues with their colleagues away from the meeting room lights and microphones.
The Commission, indeed, heard that fears of stepping over the line into open meeting act
violations are so pervasive that thousands of the most important decisions in California are
made under conditions in which elected and appointed officials serving together seldom talk to
one other outside public meetings. More troubling, witnesses said, as officials are constrained
in their ability to gather information and candidly bounce general policy ideas off one another
and educate themselves, the quality of public decision-making has eroded.
In the view of the Little Hoover Commission, the sustained powerful campaigns of media and
First Amendment interests to ensure public access to government proceedings is not working
as intended, and may be, at worst, backfiring. Decision-makers and stakeholders alike told the
Commission that due to limits on informal discussions among elected and appointed bodies,
California government also is becoming less transparent, not more, as decision-making is
increasingly driven down, and out of public sight, to government staffers who are not
accountable to the voters in elections. Lobbyists and other third parties who recognize the
restraints on decision-makers also can skillfully pollinate decision-making bodies with
individual conversations to subtly and privately steer them toward consensus.
Throughout the study process, the California Newspaper Publishers Association and others
have told the Commission the state’s open meeting acts aren’t the problem and have singled
out government attorneys for interpreting them too narrowly. The Commission learned that
attorneys for state boards, commissions, city councils, special districts, school boards and
other entities do often counsel their clients against informal conversations. But their reasoning
also rings true. Silence away from the microphones is an effective tool to avoid open meeting
act lawsuits, which can serve as an entry point for opponents to overturn controversial
multibillion-dollar projects and unwind difficult compromises.
The Little Hoover Commission has long been guided in its work by principles of open
government and the public interest. It appreciates the reasoning of First Amendment
advocates in proposing tougher open meeting laws and public concerns about whether they
can trust their leaders outside public meetings. But it believes just as strongly that elected
and appointed officials have a duty to act with efficiency and clarity as they govern California
through the complexities and extreme challenges of its modern existence. The Commission
contends that recent ex parte abuses, potentially criminal in nature, represent deviations from
the law, rather than the norm, and that respective agencies can evaluate additional measures
to improve transparency and accountability. It also contends that restrictions placed on
officials by the current open meeting laws are impeding quality decision-making and should be
eased with minor modifications. The Commission respectfully submits these findings and
recommendations and is prepared to help you take on this challenge.
Sincerely,
Pedro Nava
Chairman
C W G
ONVERSATIONS FOR ORKABLE OVERNMENT
Table of Contents
Executive Summary…………………………………………………………………………………….. i
Reconsidering California’s Open Meeting Laws…………………………………………….…… 1
Ex Parte Communications: Talking Privately with Government……………………………. 33
Changes for Effective and Open Governing…………….……………………………………….. 47
Appendices & Notes…………………………………………………………………………………... 65
Appendix A: Public Hearing Witnesses………………………….……………..………………… 67
Appendix B: Little Hoover Commission Public Meetings.…………………………………… 69
Appendix C: Results from Brown Act Survey of 271 Elected Officials from Local
Government and Special Districts...………………………………………………………………. 71
Appendix D: Views of Elected Officials on Brown Act Compliance: A Sampling of
Opinion…………………….……………………………………………………………………………. 75
Appendix E: Ex Parte Practices of Selected Federal Government Agencies……………... 81
Appendix F: Suggested Language to Amend Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act……....... 87
Notes……………………………………………………………………………………………………... 89
Table of Sidebars & Charts
William T. Bagley: Make The Law “A Little More Manageable”…………………………… 3
Legislative History of the Bagley-Keene Op en Meeting Act…………...……………………. 8
Senate Floor Analysis of AB 1492 (Eng) Proposing to Amend the Bagley-Keene Open
Meeting Act (2009)……………………………………………………………………………………. 9
Before and After: The 2008 and 2009 Enacted Changes to California’s Open Meeting
Acts for Local and State Government………………………………….…………………….…… 11
At a Glance: The California Public Utilities Commission……..…….………………………. 15
At a Glance: The California Energy Commission………………….…………………………… 17
Informal Rulemaking: What It Is and How It’s Done…………………….…………………… 36
Lawmakers Consider Bill to Restrict Ex Parte Conversations at the CPUC…...…………. 38
Would you say the state government is pretty much run by a few big interests
looking out for themselves, or that it is run for the benefit of all people?………….…… 43
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Executive Summary
T
he perils of the hurried, often-heated atmosphere in which the
Legislature proposes, debates and finally decides the fate of
thousands of bills annually includes well-intended change that
creates unintended consequences. Legislation can unexpectedly miss its
mark when those who interpret and implement it respond differently
than sponsors anticipated.
So it is with California’s open meeting laws. With the best of civic
intentions they are stifling the ability of the state’s public officials to
govern effectively. They are due for reconsideration.
The Little Hoover Commission, in a 10-month review, has examined
compliance issues with California’s two primary open meeting laws, the
Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act for state government and the
Ralph M. Brown Act for local government. The Commission focused on
the unexpected impacts of reforming the Brown Act in 2008 and
incorporating those changes in 2009 into the Bagley-Keene Act. The
enacted reforms, sponsored by the California Newspaper Publishers
Association, attempted to resolve a confusing 2006 state appeals court
ruling related to open meetings. Specifically, the reforms aimed to
altogether ban serial meetings (in which Commissioner A conveys a view
privately to Commission B who conveys it to Commissioner C to reach a
majority consensus) by ensuring that a majority of an entity’s members
cannot communicate via any means outside a noticed meeting to
discuss, deliberate or take action on a matter under their jurisdiction.
These reforms resolved the ambiguity created by the 2006 court ruling.
But the additional language has created a surprising consequence – less
government transparency. Constraints on internal discussions by
appointees and elected officials have driven more decision-making
downward to the staff level and out of sight of the public. Many
participants in the Commission’s study process said staffers who are not
accountable to the public in elections or through the appointments
process are gathering more consensus and making decisions internally
for leaders to ratify in public meetings. More troubling, lobbyists who
understand the constraints faced by decision-makers can use
conversations with individual office holders to subtly nudge them toward
consensus for their own ends.
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The Commission learned that public sector attorneys have urged such an
abundance of caution as a result of the changes that many elected and
appointed officials fear talking with one another outside public meetings.
An exploration of these developments and recommendations to resolve
them with a small adjustment of statutory language is at the heart of this
report.
The Commission also examined the everyday use of private conversations
in the executive branch between government officials and the interests
they regulate. These so-called “ex parte communications” have become a
significant concern during the past year, driven by allegations that some
officials at the California Public Utilities Commission held unreported
and illegal private conversations with the utilities they regulate.
During its study process the Commission considered whether private
conversations between regulators and the regulated are appropriate. It
examined the array of rules employed by various agencies throughout
state government and also reviewed policies used by the federal
government. The Commission concluded that these private
conversations are, in most cases, a necessary and effective tool of
information gathering and governing – and recommends that current
rules stay in place, while giving consideration to additional transparency
and accountability that could provide Californians optimum insight into
state government decision-making.
Drawing the Line
Tensions over where to draw the line on private conversations within an
open government are central to a democratic society. A state regulatory
official’s ability to meet privately with lobbyists or a county supervisor’s
wish to discuss general policy issues informally with colleagues can be
another person’s definition of secret government. The 2008 and 2009
reforms to the Brown and Bagley-Keene acts tried admirably to find a
best way forward. But they created unforeseen governing problems that
require fixing for the good of Californians.
The Commission frequently heard during its review that changes made to
the state’s open meeting acts have confused appointed and elected
officials regarding what they are allowed to do outside public meetings –
and more importantly, what they can’t do. Media interests and other
supporters of tough open meeting act laws simultaneously contended to
the Commission that the confusion is unnecessary, the laws do not need
to be fixed and that government attorneys are simply interpreting them
incorrectly.
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But the legal muddle and overflow of caution inside the public sector is
obviously real and having a corrosive impact on public decision-making.
Elected and appointed officials throughout California told the
Commission they feel obstructed in efforts to gather quality information
and make the best possible decisions for those whom they represent.
Many who serve on state boards and commissions or on city councils
and boards of school districts and special districts, say they so fear
violating the state’s open meeting acts and dragging their entity into
lawsuits that they are afraid to talk privately about even the most general
matters with their colleagues or be seen together at events outside of
public meetings. Their government attorneys, perpetually on the watch
against open meeting act legal challenges that could endanger or
overturn multimillion-dollar decisions or hard-fought compromises,
interpret open meeting laws conservatively and advise officials to exercise
maximum caution.
As a result, officials are cautious. Many are frequently in the dark about
what their colleagues are thinking. They sit behind their microphones in
public, often unwilling to engage in frank and robust discussions
necessary to reach good compromises. Several told the Commission
privately and in public settings that they fear saying something off-base
or naïve that invites ridicule or provides fodder for political opponents to
use against them.
Californians, who live in a landscape of great complexity and hard public
choices, who endure the many consequences of poorly-informed
decisions, deserve better than this. Many legal experts and stakeholders
believe it would take no more than a few clarifying words in the state’s
open meeting laws to better balance the public’s right to observe and
participate in their government with officials’ need to govern. The Little
Hoover Commission agrees with them.
Meanwhile, the Commission also heard disturbing accounts from city
councilmembers and members of other public bodies about a secondary
issue related to the Brown Act – an inability to curb abusive public
comment at open meetings. Officeholders described how the same band
of commenters faithfully shows up at televised council meetings,
particularly in the City of Los Angeles, to heckle them, curse, sing, talk
in funny voices, dress in offensive or outrageous costumes and make
comments only slightly related to the agenda topic. Commissioners
heard that attempts to rein in this abusive and time-wasting behavior
has primarily resulted in lawsuits and the necessity to pay public funds
to these commenters. Elected officials told the Commission that neither
the Legislature, nor the courts, tolerate such behavior.
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The Commission, long guided in its studies by principles of
accountability, transparency and advancing the public interest, believes
wholeheartedly in open government and the public’s right to access it. In
that spirit, it recommends a small adjustment to each of California’s
open meeting acts to provide state and local officials more ability to
discuss general policy issues among themselves outside of public
meetings – while continuing to prevent them from reaching agreement on
future votes or decisions. The Commission, likewise, recommends a
fresh look at ways to curb abusive use of public comment opportunities.
In light of the widespread interest and concerns throughout California
about open government at the state level, the Commission also offers
recommendations to enhance public access to executive branch, board
and commission deliberations while ensuring that those who govern can
do so effectively.
Recommendation 1: The Legislature should adopt new language to various state
government codes to clarify that appointed officials of state boards and commissions can
hold informal internal discussions among two or more members about general policy
issues related to their work so long as the discussions are not used to develop
concurrence or consensus on an upcoming vote or decision in violation of the Bagley-
Keene Open Meeting Act.
Recommendation 2: The Legislature should adopt new language to various state
government codes to clarify that local elected officials and their appointees to local and
regional government bodies can hold informal internal discussions among two or more
members about general policy issues related to their work so long as the discussions are
not used to develop concurrence or consensus on an upcoming vote or decision in
violation of the Ralph M. Brown Act.
Recommendation 3: A working group led by trade associations such as the League of
California Cities, California State Association of Counties, California Special Districts
Association and California School Boards Association should consider a fresh legal
approach to maintaining decorum and policing public comment during open meetings –
in line with that employed by the Legislature – that will help rein in abuses by some
members of the public.
Recommendation 4: The State of California should retain all existing executive branch
policies that ban ex parte communications in adjudicatory proceedings. The state also
should retain its current array of ex parte policies that provide useful information to
executive branch decision-makers and govern a variety of quasi-legislative proceedings,
quasi-judicial proceedings and a variety of hybrid proceedings with consideration as to
additional transparency and accountability.
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Reconsidering California’s Open
Meeting Laws
A mong the countless thousands of bills signed by California
governors in the past six decades, two in particular still resonate “The people of this
in the everyday work of state and local government. The State do not yield their
foundational Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act for state agencies signed by
sovereignty to the
Governor Ronald Reagan in 1967 – and its predecessor Ralph M. Brown
agencies which serve
Act for local government signed by Governor Earl Warren in 1953 –
them. The people, in
endure in California’s civic life by broadening the public’s right to be
inside the room, observe and participate as elected and appointed delegating authority,
officials deliberate and make decisions. do not give their public
servants the right to
The anti-secrecy principles embedded within these acts have long served
decide what is good for
their advocates as rallying calls for open government throughout
the people to know
California. The acts provide a legal foundation for media organizations
and individual Californians to compel open deliberations and public and what is not good
decision-making with audiences participating. The state’s two primary for them to know. The
open meeting acts, aggressively expanded and vigorously defended over people insist on
the years by media interests and public watchdogs, have become
remaining informed so
powerful tools for monitoring the conduct of government officials.
that they may retain
control over the
Some Californians now believe, however, the long, relentless crusade for
open government has overreached and begun to obstruct good instruments they have
government. Specifically, these public officials and stakeholders cite created.”
unforeseen and detrimental impacts for effective governing as a result of
enacted legislative amendments to the Bagley-Keene Act in 2009 and Preamble, Ralph M. Brown
near-identical amendments made to the Brown Act in 2008. The Act. Enacted 1953. Also,
amendments, made to rectify a confusing state appeals court ruling, Bagley-Keene Open Meeting
have instead created more confusion and caused some public agencies to Act. Enacted 1967 and
be “tied up in knots,” according to one Commission witness. amended in 1980, 1981,
2001 and 2009.
During a series of hearings and meetings during 2014 and 2015,
government officials and others told the Little Hoover Commission that
the quality of public decision-making is faltering at some state boards,
commissions and agencies, as well as at city halls and county
courthouses, as a result of these amendments. Witnesses specifically
cited new constraints on officials’ ability to talk with one another outside
of public meetings. Previous to the 2009 and 2008 changes, decision-
makers believed they could talk with one another informally about
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general policy issues related to their work, even as a majority, provided
they did not attempt to reach consensus on a future action or vote. After
the changes, many believed, due to legal interpretations from their
government attorneys, that discussing or trying to learn about general
policies among themselves risked violating the acts.
Many witnesses and participants in the Commission’s study process said
the 2009 and 2008 changes have left California’s elected and appointed
officials to grapple with the complexities of a modern state while barely
talking with one another outside public meetings.
During a 10-month review of the state’s open meeting laws, the
Commission repeatedly heard this concern at the juncture of the peoples’
right to know and officials need to govern. Many among more than 30
hearing and advisory committee participants, as well as nearly 300 local
elected officials surveyed anonymously across California, expressed
alarm about the impacts of open meeting laws on their ability to
effectively run state boards and commissions and local governments.
While all professed support for open government, many participants in
the Commission’s study process said 2009 and 2008 changes to the
state’s open meeting acts and their attorneys’ interpretations of those
changes have significantly hindered their information-gathering ability
and greatly complicated decision-making processes.
“I get the need for transparency. But the way the Brown Act is being
interpreted – or is written – it can have a stifling effect on conversation,”
said Los Angeles City Councilmember Robert Blumenfield during a
May 2015 commission advisory committee meeting.
“Today, as I read the law, it would be a violation of Bagley-Keene for me
to ask two of my colleagues, ‘What do you think about the future of solar
energy?’ even though I could ask that question of any other person on
the planet,” CPUC Commissioner Mike Florio testified before the
Commission at its August 2014 hearing. “That seems unduly restrictive
and counter-productive to me.”
Given the stature of open, deliberative government in a democracy, the
Commission does not take lightly the implications of loosening the state’s
open meeting laws, as suggested by hearing witnesses and meeting
participants. Like other Californians, Commissioners are concerned over
media reports in 2014 and 2015 of alleged improper communications
between the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) and
executives of investor-owned utilities. Although these alleged incidents
might be characterized as not following rules that already exist – as
opposed to the need for stronger rules – the intensity of media coverage
is mindful of historic concerns about government secrecy that ebb and
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flow with the headlines. A 1952 San Francisco Chronicle reporting
series, for instance – “Your Secret Government” – detailed how Bay Area
government agencies routinely barred reporters and other Californians
from attending public meetings. The series prompted the League of
California Cities and California Newspaper Publishers Association to
jointly draft and win legislative support for the Brown Act.1
During its review of open meeting laws, the Commission read near-daily
newspaper stories and broadcast reports alleging Bagley-Keene and
Brown Act violations throughout California. Attesting to the acts’
influence in civic life, public watchdogs and the media are quick to raise
alarms over possible, and sometimes even seemingly minor, violations.2
Not infrequently, follow-up stories report on the courts and county
prosecutors clearing government entities in Brown Act cases considered
groundless or too close to call.3 It is clear from this abundance of media
reports that violations are occurring and perhaps common, but some
local elected officials contended to the Commission that some opponents
and interest groups can wield Brown Act allegations as a tool of political
harassment. In its research, the Commission also saw occasional
parallels between the use of Bagley-Keene Act and California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) lawsuits as a tactic to delay projects
or leverage concessions. Lawsuits aiming to block California’s high
speed rail system and proposed Delta bypass tunnels, for instance,
alleged violations of the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act alongside alleged
violations of CEQA.4
William T. Bagley: Make The Law “A Little More Manageable”
“The original section 11123 of the 1967 act was as follows: ‘All meetings of a
state agency shall be open and public and all persons shall be permitted to
attend any meeting.’ That’s all it said. It had nothing to do with if you could
meet and confer and do anything else.”
“Obviously, the immediate problem is the words’ to discuss.’ It’s much too
broad and ought to be changed.”
“It (the act) should be a little more tolerable, a little more manageable, a little
more equitable to making public policy. Making public policy is what it’s all
about.”
Source: Former-Assemblymember William T. Bagley, author of the 1967 open meeting act for
state government, later known as the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act. June 25, 2015, telephone
conversation, with the Little Hoover Commission.
Numerous times over the course of its study, the Commission heard that
the 2009 changes to the Bagley-Keene Act and 2008 changes to the
Brown Act contribute to the ease of these allegations, and aren’t working
as their sponsors and authors intended. Many officials on the front lines
of state and local governing told the Commission that the changes have
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produced less government transparency instead of more. Officials
commonly noted that due to their perceived inability to talk informally
with one another outside public meetings, decisions are less informed
than they would like or made at the staff level, out of public view for
elected and appointed officials to simply ratify at their open meetings.
This introductory chapter, in keeping with the Commission’s statutory
mission to seek efficiency and economy within the state’s executive
branch, describes first the Commission’s review and findings related to
the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act as it applies to state agencies,
boards and commissions. It then describes similar findings related to
the Brown Act as it impacts city and county governments, special
districts, school boards and other entities.
Origins of the Commission’s California Open
Meeting Acts Study
The Commission learned initially about concerns with the state’s Bagley-
Keene Open Meeting Act in an unexpected venue. The Commission’s
April 24, 2014, hearing on energy governance as a follow-up to the
Commission’s 2012 study, Rewiring California: Integrating Agendas for
Energy Reform, sparked the inquiry. During the hearing, one witness
from the energy sector pivoted from the main point of his testimony to
suggest that changes enacted to the Bagley-Keene Act in 2009 are stifling
the CPUC – a San Francisco-based state agency with five full-time board
members and 1,000 staffers – as it attempts to regulate privately-owned
electric, natural gas, telecommunications, water, railroad, rail transit
and passenger transportation companies.
The five CPUC board members have largely stopped talking with one
another about issues on their collective agenda, the Commission learned.
As a result of the Bagley-Keene Act changes, few informal discussions
precede the public meetings where board members make
multibillion-dollar decisions about some of California’s most complex
matters. Indeed, the Commission was told in 2014 that most CPUC
board members spent little time at the office – because they couldn’t talk
with one another there, even informally about general policy issues.
The April 2014 hearing witnesses singled out the two small words – “to
discuss” – in the 2009 legislative language as the cause of this change.
They told the Commission the words infer legal risk for board members
talking privately among themselves – especially if private conversations
can be interpreted as helping them reach collective consensus on an
issue.
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“I yield to no one in my reverence to Bagley-Keene, but one amendment
three years ago has done some real unintended damage and I encourage “The underlying
you to draw attention to it, and that is the constraint on the ability of purpose behind the
individual commissioners (California Public Utility Commissioners)
BK Act is to allow
simply to talk to each other as part of a normal course of business,” said
transparency to
Ralph Cavanagh, co-director of the energy program for the Natural
decisions as they
Resources Defense Council. Two additional energy experts on the
hearing panel quickly added their agreement. Unprompted, a r e b e ing made.
Mr. Cavanagh and the other April 2014 witnesses told the Commission The public
the Bagley-Keene Act changes have stifled effective decision-making by
(including the
limiting discussion among the Commission’s board members, and
media) is able to
similarly among their advisors. The witnesses pointed to the CPUC’s
see the debate or
enormous workloads and cited the “unproductive constraints” of the
Bagley-Keene rules – or at least the CPUC’s interpretation of those rules discussion, have
– in conducting its work. The three witnesses expressed consensus to some sense of the
the Commission that the difficult “process” of complying with the 2009 basis for the
changes have essentially trumped quality policymaking at the CPUC.
decision and to
Witnesses told the Commission that adhering to the Bagley-Keene Act’s
observe who voted
requirements for transparency have become more important at the CPUC
which way.”
than having all the information and discussions necessary to make
complex multibillion-dollar decisions.
Robert C. Fellmeth.
Executive Director,
It’s Not About Efficiency: A Brief Introduction to the
Center for Public
Bagley-Keene Act and its Origins in the Brown Act
Interest Law. University
of San Diego School of
The Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act sets the rules for how multi-member Law. August 26, 2014.
state boards, commissions, panels, committees and councils conduct Written testimony to the
their decision-making in public. It requires, with specified exceptions, Commission.
that all meetings of a state body be open and public and all persons be
permitted to attend any meeting. Generally, according to the California
Attorney General’s Office, the Bagley-Keene Act “requires these bodies to
publicly notice their meetings, prepare agendas, accept public testimony
and conduct their meetings in public unless specifically authorized by
the Act to meet in closed session.”5
The current Bagley-Keene Act, which originated as AB 495 during the
Legislature’s 1967 session, is state government’s equivalent of local
government’s Brown Act.
“Essentially the provisions of A.B. 495 provide a single open meeting law
for state agencies that is similar to the Ralph M. Brown Act, which
governs the meetings of local legislative bodies,” wrote Assemblymember
William T. Bagley in an August 15, 1967, letter to Governor Ronald
Reagan, urging him to sign the bill. “The bill has enjoyed virtually
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unanimous approval by the public media,” the Assemblymember wrote
the Governor.
Indeed, a similar August 14, 1967, letter to Governor Reagan from the
California Newspaper Publishers Association (CNPA), voiced “strong
support” for the measure and called it “the result of a lengthy effort to
obtain a comprehensive open meeting statute.” The CNPA noted that the
bill “embodies the philosophy of the Brown Act,” and pointed out that
Governor Edmund G. (Pat) Brown had in 1965 declined to sign a similar
bill by Assemblymember Milton Marks of San Francisco.
Governor Reagan signed the bill on September 2, 1967.
Perhaps most importantly for the purposes of this report, the Bagley-
Keene Act has been interpreted to limit members of state boards and
commissions – including those at the Little Hoover Commission – from
conversing privately with more than one other member about agenda
items or other business pending before the board or commission.
Conversations with more than one other commissioner about issues
outside public meetings are considered public meetings and are illegal
without proper notice under the act. Elected or appointed members of
boards are generally required to conduct conversations through an
executive director who serves as a conduit to the entire board.
Also illegal are “serial meetings.” This prevents situations on a five-
member board in which Commissioner A conveys his or her views on an
agenda item privately to Commissioner B who then conveys it privately to
Commissioner C to formulate majority consensus for an eventual public
vote. A 2004 California Attorney General’s analysis of the Bagley-Keene
Act acknowledges the apparent clumsiness of this arrangement and
notes the frustrations that appointees to boards and commissions often
have with the act.
“Operating under the requirements of the Act can sometimes be
frustrating for both board members and staff,” the legal analysis states.
“This results from the lack of efficiency built into the Act and the
unnatural communication patterns brought about by compliance with its
rules.”6
The Attorney General’s analysis notes, however, that efficiency is not the
priority in the operations of state boards and commissions.
“If efficiency were the top priority, the Legislature would
create a department and then permit the department head
to make decisions. However, when the Legislature creates
a multi-member board, it makes a different value judgment.
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Rather than striving strictly for efficiency, it concludes that
there is a higher value to having a group of individuals with
a variety of experiences, backgrounds and viewpoints come
together to develop a consensus. Consensus is developed
through debate, deliberation and give and take. This
process can sometimes take a long time and is very
different in character than the individual decision-maker
model.”
The Attorney General’s analysis urges board members to take a larger
view of the rules:
“If one accepts the philosophy behind the creation of a
multi-member body and the reservation of a seat at the
table for the public, many of the particular rules that exist in
the Bagley-Keene Act become much easier to accept and
understand. Simply put, some efficiency is sacrificed for
the benefits of greater public participation in government.”
The Attorney General’s Office also contends that appointed state board
members and commissioners can talk with one another informally and
with their staff – but not in a way that telegraphs or receives signals from
other commissioners about intended actions in a later public meeting.
However, while the Bagley-Keene Act clearly states that a majority of
members of a state body shall not discuss, deliberate or take action
outside a meeting, the rules become more complicated when a
subcommittee or advisory committee of the full board meets, in
particular, a large board. For these small subsets, the Attorney General
advises two is a conversation and three is a meeting. As a result, most
boards and commissions prohibit more than two members, even when
two is not close a majority, to informally discuss policies under their
jurisdiction or even to collectively gather information without making the
gathering open to the public.
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Legislative History of the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act
California’s Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act has its origins in the 1953 enactment of the “Brown Act,”
authored as Assembly Bill 339 by former Assembly Speaker Ralph M. Brown of Modesto, then chair of
the Assembly Interim Committee on the Judiciary. Under the guidelines of the Brown Act signed by
Governor Earl Warren, all meetings of local government legislative bodies must be open to the public.
Extending provisions to state agencies
In 1967, Assemblymember William T. Bagley of San Rafael extended provisions of the Brown Act to state
agencies, boards and commissions with Assembly Bill 495, signed by Governor Ronald Reagan. The
bill, with leading support from the California Newspaper Publishers Association, extended open meeting
coverage to approximately 60 state entities. Assemblymember Bagley, in an August 15, 1967, letter to
Governor Reagan, stated: “The bill provides a uniform set of rules for the conduct of meetings of all state
agencies and provides, with certain exceptions, that all such meetings shall be open to the public.
Essentially the provisions of AB 495 provides a single open meeting law for state agencies that is similar
to the Ralph M. Brown Act, which governs the meeting of local legislative bodies.”
New public rights to written materials
In 1980, Senator Barry Keene of Benicia authored Senate Bill 1850, the State Agency Open Meeting Act,
to broaden public disclosure of public meetings. The bill, signed by Governor Jerry Brown, aimed to
provide public access to written materials used by members of a board at public meetings. This bill also
expanded the list of state entities under the state’s open meeting law to include advisory committees,
subcommittees and other bodies of state agencies and required one-week advance notice of meetings
upon request. The goal of SB 1850 was to ensure public access to more government meetings, along
with background information, agendas and other documents important to better understanding of the
proceedings.
Extending provisions to state boards and commissions
In 1981, Senator Keene successfully carried Senate Bill 879, requiring state boards and commissions to
follow the same strict emergency meeting rules as local government. With the signature of Governor
Jerry Brown, the State Agency Open Meeting Act was renamed the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act.
With few specified exceptions, it declares that all meetings of a state body are to be open and made
public and all persons are permitted to attend.
Prohibiting collective concurrence via any method
In 2001, Assemblymember Joe Canciamilla authored AB 192, to prohibit any private use of direct
communications, personal intermediaries or technological devices by a majority of board or commission
members to develop collective concurrence on an action or a vote to be taken. The legislation, signed
by Governor Gray Davis, conformed the Bagley-Keene Act to provisions already contained in the Brown
Act.
New limits on discussions
In 2009, Assemblymember Mike Eng of Monterey Park, authored Assembly Bill 1847, which imposed
new limits on conversations outside of public meetings by members of state boards and commissions.
The bill, signed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, has been widely interpreted by state government
attorneys to prevent members from having internal or informal discussions about any items of business
within the subject matter jurisdiction of their board or commission.
Sources: Bill files. Legislative Intent Service, INC. Summer 2011. “Engrossment.” Woodland, CA.
http://www.legintent.com/engrossment/summer2011.pdf.
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Confusion in the Courts: Why the State’s Open Meeting
Acts Were Changed
Changes enacted by the Legislature to the Bagley-Keene Act in 2009 and
the Brown Act in 2008 were rooted in a 2006 First District Court of
Appeal interpretation of the Brown Act in Wolfe v. City of Fremont.7
Many media interests considered the ruling to be a weakening of bans on
serial meetings. At the very least, the court ruling created confusion
within California government regarding the legal status of serial
meetings, which were previously banned by both the Brown and Bagley-
Keene acts.
The California Newspaper Publishers Association (CNPA) told the
Commission at its August 26, 2014, hearing: “The court concluded that
serial communications did not violate the Brown Act if a majority of
members of the agency did not commit to an action to be taken.”
The City of Fremont case involved a
Senate Floor Analysis of AB 1494 (Eng) Proposing to
November 2004 policy by the police
Amend the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act (2009)
department to begin limiting
“According to the author’s office, this bill is intended to close
responses to home invasion alarms.
a loophole in the Bagley-Keene Act that allows for serial
The facts showed that the city
meetings to legally take place. The loophole stems from a
manager met individually with
2006 California appellate court ruling in Wolfe v. City of
council members to explain the new Fremont (2006, 144 Cal. App. 4th 533) that declared a
policy and secure their collective member who went to a majority of members in individual
agreement not to interfere. The meetings to discuss a public issue did not violate that serial
meetings provision, unless the communication actually
council members also privately
resulted in a decision of the board. Attorneys for the
discussed the policy among
newspapers and the public agencies agreed the decision
themselves. Eventually, these
effectively sanctioned unlimited serial meetings involving a
communications became publicly majority so long as it could not be proven the body agreed to
known and spurred a city resident’s a specific action as a result of the communications.
lawsuit alleging violations of Brown
The author’s office notes that before Wolfe, violations of the
Act requirements that council serial meeting prohibition were becoming problematic to
meetings be open and public. But a pursue because it was difficult to prove that secret
trial court rejected the allegations communications were being carried out by a majority to
develop a collective concurrence on a public issue. The
and the appeals court also ruled
author’s office contends that without the solution provided by
that the City of Fremont did not
this bill, journalists and members of the public will have an
violate the Brown Act. The appeals
impossible task of proving that the state board or commission
court judge ruled that because the reached a decision.”
council ultimately didn’t vote on the
Source: AB 1494 (Eng) Senate Rules Committee analysis. June 4, 2009.
issue it had discussed privately it Office of Senate Floor Analyses.
had not illegally reached any http://lisprdweblb.calegis.net:7010/LISWeb/faces/bills/bill_search_results.xhtml
concurrence in advance.8
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In August 2014 testimony to the Commission, CNPA General Counsel
Jim Ewert explained the rationale for introducing new open meeting act
bills in response to the court ruling.
“Because a wide range of public and media attorneys believed the
Wolfe court erred in its interpretation, many groups, including CNPA and
the League of California Cities collaborated to sponsor legislation to
ensure that a majority of a body’s members could not use a series of
communications outside a noticed meeting to discuss, deliberate, or take
action on a matter under the body’s jurisdiction under the Brown Act,”
he testified to the Commission. Essentially, the bills were a way to close
loopholes that appeared, due to the court ruling, to legalize serial
meetings in some cases.
Advocates led by the CNPA won passage in 2008 of AB 1732 (Romero) to
amend the Brown Act and prohibit serial meetings altogether. A second
CNPA-sponsored bill enacted in 2009, AB 1494 (Eng), synchronized the
Bagley-Keene Act with the 2008 Brown Act changes. Governor Arnold
Schwarzenegger signed both bills. Mr. Ewert said the bills eliminated
legal language on which the Wolfe court had based its interpretation and
expressed the Legislature’s intent to reject the Wolfe decision.
At the time there were hints of the controversies that would attend the
laws after their passage and during their implementation. In 2007,
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the CNPA’s first attempt to
amend the Brown Act – SB 964 (Romero), stating that the bill “imposes
an impractical standard for compliance on local officials and could
potentially prohibit communication among officials and agency staff
outside of a public meeting.”9
The follow-up bill ultimately passed in 2008 to amend the Brown Act
added new language specifying that the bill would not prevent an agency
staffer, such as the city manager or a department head, from engaging in
informational discussions about pending issues with the city council, so
long as the staff person did not act an intermediary to help a majority of
the council reach consensus on an upcoming vote. The new language
removed concerns that prompted the previous year’s veto. The 2009
amendments to the Bagley-Keene Act added similar language, clarifying
that state agency, board and commission staff can conduct informational
discussions with their board members so long as those discussions did
not help the board reach a consensus on a vote.
Still, a Senate floor analysis of SB 1732 in 2008 stated that the CNPA’s
proposed new prohibitions on informal discussions by local government
officials under the Brown Act (and a year later, for state officials under
the Bagley-Keene Act) were “significantly broader” than the restrictions of
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current law.10 That broadening of prohibitions on informal discussions
cited in the analysis, indeed, gave rise to many of the local- and state-
level concerns reviewed by the Commission in 2014 and 2015.
Before and After: The 2008 and 2009 Enacted Changes to
California’s Open Meeting Acts for Local and State Government
The 2008 Brown Act Changes
Specifically, SB 1732 eliminated the following sentence from the Brown Act: “Except as authorized
pursuant to Section 54953, any use of direct communication, personal intermediaries, or technological
devices that is employed by a majority of the members of a legislative body to develop a collective
concurrence as to action to be taken on an item by the members of a legislative body is prohibited.”
The 2008 legislation added the following language to the statute, which now reads: “A majority of the
members of a legislative body shall not, outside of a meeting authorized by this chapter, use a series of
communications of any kind, directly or through intermediaries, to discuss, deliberate, or take action on
any item of business that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the legislative body.”
The legislation also added that this new language “shall not be construed as preventing an employee or
official of a local agency, from engaging in separate conversations or communications outside of a meeting
authorized by this chapter with members of a legislative body in order to answer questions or provide
information regarding a matter that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the local agency, if that
person does not communicate to members of the legislative body the comments or position of any other
member or members of the legislative body.”
The 2009 Bagley-Keene Act Changes
In 2009, AB 1494 eliminated the following sentence from the Bagley-Keene Act: “Except as authorized
pursuant to Section 11123, any use of direct communication, personal intermediaries, or technological
devices that is employed by a majority of the members of the state body to develop a collective
concurrence as to action to be taken on an item by the members of the state body is prohibited.”
The legislation added the following language to the statute, which now reads: “A majority of the members
of a state body shall not, outside of a meeting authorized by this chapter, use a series of communications of
any kind, directly or through intermediaries, to discuss, deliberate, or take action on any item of business
that is within the subject matter of the state body.”
The legislation also added that this new language “shall not be construed to prevent an employee or official
of a state agency from engaging in separate conversations or communications outside of a meeting
authorized by this chapter with members of a legislative body in order to answer questions or provide
information regarding a matter that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the state agency, if that
person does not communicate to members of the legislative body the comments or position of any other
member or members of the legislative body.”
Unforeseen Implications of the words “to Discuss”
Many local and state government attorneys maintain that due to the statutes’ inclusion of two words, “to
discuss,” elected and appointed officials of local government and state boards and commissions can no
longer have informal conversations with their colleagues outside public meetings about issues pending
before them – or even have general policy discussions. The Commission frequently heard during its study
that these two words “to discuss” represent legislative overreach and an unintended consequence that has
limited the ability to effectively govern some state boards and commissions. First Amendment and media
interests attributed this reasoning to faulty legal interpretation and pledged to defend the language against
any proposed amendments as a result of the Commission’s study.
Sources: SB 1732 (Romero), 2008. http://lisprdweblb.calegis.net:7010/LISWeb/faces/bills/bill_search_results.xhtml. Also, AB 1494
(Eng), 2009. http://lisprdweblb.calegis.net:7010/LISWeb/faces/bills/bill_search_results.xhtml.
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Perceived Governing Problems Due to 2009 Bagley-Keene
Act Changes
Varying perceptions of governing difficulties due to Bagley-Keene Act
restrictions has much to do with the differing natures of California’s state
boards and commissions. Most of California’s hundreds of boards,
commissions and councils are steered by volunteer appointees who serve
on a part-time basis, meet monthly and communicate primarily with one
another through staff.
These entities, as a result, tend to be less vocal about the 2009 Bagley-
Keene Act changes and the resulting compliance issues reviewed by the
Commission.
Professor Robert C. Fellmeth, executive director of the University of
San Diego School of Law’s Center for Public Interest Law, explained in
August 2014 testimony to the Commission: “Most state board and
commission appointees are essentially volunteers who are paid a
symbolic per diem and meet once every month or two. The ‘Executive
Officer’ they select does virtually all the administration. Hence there is a
natural coordination throughout the agency without the need for any
coordination among board or commission members.”
But a handful of boards and commissions, such as the State Water
Resources Control Board, California Public Utilities Commission and
California Energy Commission, have heavy workloads and full-time
board members with greater roles in agency administration. All these
agencies cited new complications as a result of the 2009 changes to the
Bagley-Keene Act.
“We don’t have three members together outside of public meetings,” said
State Water Resources Control Board General Counsel Michael Lauffer
during an October 2014 Commission advisory meeting on the topic. The
state board has five full-time board members appointed by the Governor
and confirmed by the Senate to four-year terms. Mr. Lauffer, reflecting a
conservative legal interpretation of the Bagley-Keene Act adopted by
many state attorneys, said, “I also counsel 10 regional boards (each with
seven part-time members). The last thing I want is depositions saying,
‘What did you talk about (outside a meeting)?’”
Many witnesses and participants acknowledged this widespread and
conversation-stifling legal interpretation cited by Mr. Lauffer. At an
October 2014 Commission advisory committee meeting, one participant
said the state’s decision-makers are held accountable by the Governor
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and the public that elected them, but must make decisions in an isolated
environment where they can’t have open and robust policy discussions.
Professor Fellmeth concurred, telling the Commission, “The problem with
the 2009 change is the possible overreach involved in its bright line
formulation of “discuss” that applies not to just commissioners, but any
“intermediaries (such as staff),” he stated. “The dangerous Wolfe
decision warranted reversal or clarification,” he said, “but it may have
been over-corrected by AB 1494 when applied to this particular agency
(the CPUC).”
Michael Asimow, a Stanford Law School visiting professor of law, also
cited the CPUC, in acknowledging difficulties faced by state agencies in
his March 2015 testimony to the Commission.
“We employ the multi-member agency structure in order to
bring divergent policy views and different skill sets to the
decision-making process. To achieve this purpose, the
heads must be able to conduct serious and candid
discussions of policy issues as well as agency management
and priority setting,” he stated. “My interviews with
officials of the California Public Utilities Commission
indicate the CPUC is tied in knots by Bagley Keene and
unable to properly carry out its vast and vital regulatory
responsibilities. It cannot manage the agency, achieve
consistent results in different cases, or set priorities.”
The View from the CPUC
CPUC Commissioner Florio provided the Little Hoover Commission an
inside view of perceived Bagley-Keene Act hindrances to governing in his
August 2014 testimony, and also in an earlier conversation with the
Commission. Commissioner Florio, a long-time senior attorney for The
Utility Reform Network before his January 2011 appointment to the
CPUC board, testified that the enacted 2009 changes produced an
unintended impact of making “the CPUC’s decision-making less
transparent to the public, rather than more.”
In written testimony, Commissioner Florio added, “Worse it has made the
commission’s already cumbersome processes more difficult and less
timely. I also fear that the commission’s decisions may be less well-
informed than in the past and that accountability has been diffused due
to lack of internal communication,” he testified.
Commissioner Florio also provided an assessment of how the
Commission operated before the 2009 Bagley-Keene changes and after:
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“Prior to the 2009 amendments, Bagley-Keene provided
that no three commissioners could, directly or indirectly
through intermediaries, communicate with each other to
develop ‘a collective concurrence’ as to the action to be
taken on an item of business. Under this rule, three
commissioners rarely if ever met privately to discuss an
item of business, but the advisors to the various
commissioners communicated regularly to keep each of the
offices apprised of ongoing activities and to explain
proposed decisions that would be coming up for a vote.
This process worked well for decades to ensure that all
commissioners were kept well-informed about the full range
of the CPUC’s business. Because advisors cannot commit
the vote of the commissioners for whom they work, it was
impossible to develop a ‘collective concurrence’ under this
structure.
Under the revised statute, the restrictions on
communications among commissioner offices are much
stricter – no three commissioners (or their advisors) can,
through a series of direct or indirect communications, take
action, deliberate on, or even discuss, any item of business
that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the agency.
The restriction is not limited to matters that are pending for
decision – no “item of business that is within the subject
matter of the state body” can be discussed by more than
two commissioners or their advisors. In an agency with
jurisdiction as broad as the CPUC, this is a significant
limitation on communications among offices.”
Ed O’Neill, who worked 20 years at the CPUC, then entered a private law
practice before being appointed by Governor Brown to serve as special
advisor to the CPUC in May 2014, told the Commission in July 2014 that
he sees a major change in decision-making practices as a result of the
2009 enacted changes to the Bagley-Keene Act. “The one thing that’s
really striking now in contrast to the way it functioned earlier is the
commission officers function in sort of a siloed manner,” he said. “It’s
entirely as a result of Bagley-Keene restrictions making sure there is no
discussion among the offices of substantive issues.”
Commissioner Florio, in a conversation with the Little Hoover
Commission before the August 2014 hearing, said commissioners follow
advice of the CPUC’s legal team regarding Bagley-Keene restrictions. “It’s
the word ‘discuss’ that makes our lawyers think we can’t talk to one
another,” he said. Lobbyists, meanwhile, can talk to all five
commissioners and learn “like bees spreading pollen” about varying
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positions, he said. “Lobbyists who talk to all five commissioners may
know how the vote will come out while commissioners don’t.”
Elaborating on the remark in August 2014 testimony to the Commission,
Commissioner Florio said, “In fact, it is sometimes the case that everyone
in the audience at a commission meeting knows what the outcome of a
vote on a particular matter will be before it occurs – everyone, that is,
except the five commissioners and their advisors.”
He said the 2009 limits on discussion also have compartmentalized
decision-making, in that individual commissioners know specific things
about different aspects of large issues, but cannot talk to one another
about them. “There are so many cross-cutting currents with these
issues that we’re not getting decisions that reflect the totality of the
board,” he said. “This prevents us from seeing the bigger picture of what
we do.”
During a July 2014 telephone conversation with the Little Hoover
Commission, Michael Picker, then Commissioner and now president of
the CPUC, said, “It makes us an agency where commissioners become
isolated adjudicators instead of policymakers.” President Picker,
formerly a senior advisor for renewable energy to Governor Brown, was
At a Glance: The California Public Utilities Commission
The California Public Utilities Commission is a state agency that regulates privately-owned electric,
natural gas, telecommunications, water, railroad, rail transit and passenger transportation companies.
Based in San Francisco, it has 1,000 employees and is run by five full-time commissioners appointed to
six-year terms by the Governor and confirmed by the Senate. The Governor appoints one of five
commissioners as president.
The agency has one of state government’s longest-running histories, dating to the 1879 Constitution,
which established a three-person California Railroad Commission to regulate a growing network of
railroads. Histories of the era suggest that the commission quickly failed to fulfill its hopes due to
inexperience with the complexities of setting rates and also being overly influenced by the dominant
railroad companies.
A revitalized, more powerful California Railroad Commission emerged in 1911 during the Progressive
Era as a result of legislative action prodded by Governor Hiram Johnson and political pressures exerted
by the business community. The 1912 Public Utilities Act extended authority of the commission over
power and light companies, street railroads, telephone and telegraph companies and public wharves.
Historical accounts report that power and telephone companies welcomed the state commission’s
regulation as a means to ease the costly competition among them and remove them from the whims and
corruption of local politics. The commission quickly succeeded in lowering railroad rates statewide and
during its first four years facilitated the issuance of $500 million in bonds by public utilities.
In 1946 the commission expanded to five board members and was renamed the California Public
Utilities Commission to reflect an expanding regulatory landscape that continues to this day.
Sources: Mansel G. Blackford. 1977. “The Politics of Business in California, 1890-1920.” Pages 81-93. Columbus, Ohio. Ohio
State University Press. On file. Also, California Public Utilities Commission. 2014. “CPUC History & Structure.” San Francisco,
CA. http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/PUC/aboutus/puhistory.htm.
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appointed to the CPUC governing board in January 2014 and named
president in December 2014.
President Picker agreed during the July 2014 conversation that Bagley-
Keene restrictions on discussions among commissioners and advisors
have driven the consensus-building process further down to the staff
level – and made the process less transparent. “It has driven exactly the
opposite effect that people intended it to,” he said. Speaking then as a
relatively new commissioner, he said, “The other thing I have noticed is
that commissioners are never here. Why would we go into a building
where we can’t talk to people?”
Mr. O’Neill, appointed to help modernize the CPUC, said the
commission’s extraordinarily large and complex workload compared to
most state boards and commissions compounds the problems of limited
discussions before meetings. “These general rate case decisions involve
huge amounts of money, hundreds of technical complexities, many of
which the commissioners have no time to talk about beforehand,” he
said.
Commissioner Florio provided details of the workload, explaining that
governing board members receive copy-paper-sized boxes of meeting
materials every two weeks in preparation for their bi-weekly voting
meetings where they might act on dozens of agenda items. Hundreds of
other public hearings are held each year on a broad variety of topics from
utility rate setting to policies on electricity demand management and
long-term transmission planning. The April 9, 2015, CPUC voting
meeting, for example, featured 51 agenda items, while the
August 14, 2014, voting meeting, featured 80 agenda items.
The View from the California Energy Commission
Representatives of the California Energy Commission (CEC) also
participated in the Commission’s review of the 2009 Bagley-Keene
changes, commenting in August 2014 and again in February 2015 that
the changes had disrupted long-standing governance procedures in place
at the Commission.
In a February 26, 2015, letter to the Little Hoover Commission, CEC
Executive Director Robert P. Oglesby stated, “The amendments are very
broad and have led agencies, such as the Energy Commission, to restrict
even general policy and administrative discussions, both among
Commissioners and between Commissioners and staff, for fear that those
discussions may be unlawful serial meetings.”
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Added Mr. Oglesby: “This is at odds with the apparent intent in the
Energy Commission’s organic statute, which requires each Commissioner
to possess a distinct set of skills and experience – law, economics,
environment, science and public – to ensure a comprehensive perspective
on energy issues. Limitations on their ability to share these perspectives
on broad policy issues undermine this intent.”
“The CEC is different than the PUC. We are fundamentally a policy body.
We are supposed to talk with each other,” CEC Commissioner and
Attorney Designate Karen Douglas told the Commission in August 2014.
“We are supposed to have this diverse body in order to discuss these
ideas and make these decisions as a body,” she said.
Ms. Douglas told the Commission that the broad nature of the 2009
Bagley-Keene changes make it difficult to know what kind of discussion
is a potential illegal serial meeting and what
At a Glance: The California Energy Commission
is not. “It’s really hard for my counsel to tell
me what is, or what is not, on that side of The California Energy Commission is state
the line,” she said. government’s primary energy policy and planning
agency. Established in 1974 and based in
Sacramento, it has 640 employees and is run by five
Ms. Douglas, appointed to the CEC in 2008
full-time commissioners appointed by the Governor
before the Bagley-Keene changes, recalled
and confirmed by the Senate for five-year terms. The
how she would casually invite a fellow
Governor also selects a chair and vice chair from
commissioner to lunch to talk about their among the members every two years.
general impressions of the future of solar
The energy commission forecasts future energy needs,
energy and other issues – sharing
sets energy efficiency standards for buildings and
knowledge on common issues without appliances, supports energy research, develops
thought of developing concurrence on future renewable energy resources, advances renewable
policy votes. transportation fuels and certifies thermal power plants
larger than 50 megawatts.
That was then, she said. Now, said Ms. Source: The California Energy Commission. “About the California
Energy Commission. http://www.energy.ca.gov/commission
Douglas, “I can’t open up dockets and read
through testimony or someone’s comment
letter and walk into his or her office and
say, ‘I was kind of disturbed what I read there and made me think we
might have a problem there and I just want you to read it.’ These are the
things I can do only when we have a noticed public meeting. We don’t
have a noticed public meeting every day.”
Jason Levy, then General Counsel for the CEC, also told the Commission
at its August 2014 hearing that the Bagley-Keene restrictions on informal
discussions run contrary to the structure of the CEC and its purpose.
“We’re talking here about shutting down a dialogue that members of the
state body were selected from different expertise to bring to the table,” he
said.
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“The effect is the staff ends up resolving issues that would otherwise be
commissioner discussion and staff are generally civil servants. They
aren’t subject to oversight except by the state body. They certainly aren’t
appointed by the Governor. So what we do is decrease democracy and
tender it down to staff to resolve on a day to day basis unless they rise to
the level of being something that gets called out at a public meeting
during the ultimate adjudication of the issue. And that I don’t believe
helps the public. It hurts the public,” Mr. Levy said.
Revamping the CEC Governance Structure
Commissioner Douglas, who chaired the CEC at the time the Bagley-
Keene changes went into effect, said the organization’s governance
system changed significantly as a result. “We completely revamped our
internal processes. We completely revamped our ways of doing
business,” she said. “Not solely because of these amendments. But
these amendments were the precipitating cause of our making very
substantial changes.”
Ms. Douglas said the CEC functioned for years with two-commissioner
subcommittees on different topics that interacted with the chair, the
Commission, the public and stakeholders. But she said the system
became unworkable when other commissioners believed they couldn’t
have discussions with those subcommittee members due to 2009 Bagley-
Keene Act changes. Single-commissioner committees that could talk
with only one other commissioner replaced the old system.
“We moved away from a decades-long culture of designating advisory
policy committees to work with stakeholders and frame issues and help
bring recommendations to the business meeting to a culture where we
modeled the CPUC by assigning lead commissioners and having those
lead commissioners, not exclusively, but virtually exclusively, buddy – we
call it Bagley-Keene buddy - with the chair. We moved to a hub-and-
spoke model with the chair at the hub,” Ms. Douglas told the
Commission. “That’s had various implications, some good, some bad,
but it’s a very different way of doing business than what we had before.
We’re trying to manage and trying to maintain our silos because we’ve
decided silos are the easiest way to handle these issues,” Ms. Douglas
said.
The View from the California Coastal Commission
The Little Hoover Commission also solicited views from the California
Coastal Commission. The Coastal Commission is subject to the Bagley-
Keene Open Meeting Act as it makes decisions affecting many
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Californians and valuable coastal properties. The Coastal Commission,
in partnership with coastal cities and counties, plans and regulates land
subdividing, building construction and development proposals that
change the intensity of land use or public access to coastal waters.
These activities generally require a coastal permit from either the Coastal
Commission or the local government. The San Francisco-based
commission, which has 12 part-time voting members supported by a
staff of 167, holds monthly meetings that last three or more days.
The Commission heard views of three coastal commissioners regarding
the impacts of the 2009 Bagley-Keene Act changes.
Mark Vargas, a coastal commissioner, and former member of the Little
Hoover Commission, said in a mid-2014 telephone conversation with the
Commission that he generally does not think the Bagley-Keene Act or the
2009 amendments impede the commission’s ability to carry out its
duties. Mr. Vargas said there are typically 60 to 80 agenda items per
meeting and commissioners receive voluminous background materials
before each meeting. Like the CPUC, the Coastal Commission agenda
items often have significant fiscal impacts. As a result, members follow
strict general counsel guidelines regarding the Bagley-Keene Act, he said.
Similarly, in an August 25, 2014, letter to the Little Hoover Commission,
Coastal Commissioner Mary Shallenberger stated: “There has been no
noticeable difference in the way Coastal Commissioners are able to
interact with the public, one another, staff or conduct its business since
the 2009 amendments.”
Commissioners Vargas and Shallenberger explained that the Coastal
Commission added an item on its agenda each month for commissioner
comments – providing an opportunity for commissioners to publicly raise
concerns and discuss issues among themselves. Commissioner
Shallenberger said the Coastal Commission routinely holds public
briefings and workshops on such subjects as coastal agriculture, sea-
level rise, coastal wetlands and condos and hotel properties. She said
the hearings are well attended, broadcast via the Internet and offer “an
excellent demonstration of conducting public policy discussions in an
open, transparent and public manner.”
Commissioner Shallenberger also described the Coastal Commission’s
two-member subcommittees which meet privately to discuss specialty
topics. “These subcommittees have no authority to make decisions on
behalf of the Commission, but do report back in open session, providing
the Commission and public an airing of the substance of subcommittee
meetings and any recommendations from subcommittees. This
subcommittee process works well because as a 15-person commission
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with 12-voting members, two commissioners can easily meet and confer
without nearing a quorum.”
But Ms. Shallenberger acknowledged: “In a smaller size commission or
board, however, use of this type of subcommittee may not be feasible or
appropriate.”
A Counterview on the Bagley-Keene Act Changes
Coastal Commissioner Jana Zimmer offered a counterview of the 2009
changes in a letter to the Little Hoover Commission, describing
“uncertainty and confusion” as a result of the new restrictions, and also,
the “very cautious advice from our attorneys as to the scope of
discussions we may have among ourselves.” Commissioner Zimmer
stated:
“One example I recall is that when I first was appointed,
several Commissioners were interested in creating an
opportunity for give and take on the relationship of the
Coastal Act and its development permit requirements to the
preservation of agriculture as a viable use in the coastal
zone.
Five of us (less than a majority) wanted to get together
informally and brainstorm approaches, and to organize a
preliminary meeting with local ranchers and farmers, as
well as environmental interests. We were told that if more
than two Commissioners met and discussed these issues,
even to develop ideas about how to approach them to later
share at a full Commission meeting, we would risk
becoming an ‘illegal’ committee under Bagley Keene.
Thus, we had to wait for a year and a half until the staff
was able to organize a full public workshop. We had the
workshop, which was very informative, but there has been
no opportunity for follow through, because staff has other,
multiple-issue areas to try to address, which are even more
pressing as Coastal Act priorities.
Because the Commission is so constrained in exploring
emergent policy issues in public, and to actively participate
in the formulation of recommendations, the result can
indeed be to effectively ‘drive (and keep) decisions down to
the staff level’, with the appearance that our agency is less
transparent than we are actually committed to be.”
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Media Interests: Amending the Bagley-Keene Act
and Brown Act is Not the Solution
Sponsors of the 2009 Bagley-Keene Act changes and the 2008 Brown Act
changes are blunt regarding contentions that there are problems with the
statute.
“With all due respect we don’t think this is a model or a law that is
broken, that needs fixing,” California Newspaper Publishers Association
(CNPA) General Counsel Jim Ewert told the Commission at its
August 2014 hearing. Mr. Ewert, in written testimony to the
Commission, stated, “CNPA firmly believes that the public is well served
by the requirement that Commissioners discuss, deliberate or reach
consensus on an item, in an open and public meeting and we would
stridently oppose any proposed change to existing law.”
The CNPA and other First Amendment groups held firm to that opinion
throughout the Commission’s study process of the 2009 changes to the
Bagley-Keene Act and 2008 changes to the Brown Act. Mr. Ewert, when
personally questioned by Commissioners at the August 2014 hearing
about ways to address concerns raised by CPUC and CEC
representatives, answered, “I don’t think there’s anything that needs to
be fixed. I would characterize interpretation of the existing law as being
ultraconservative by attorneys and members who have made the
presentations to you.”
Mr. Ewert added, “In hearing some of the scenarios brought forth by the
CPUC and the member of the California Energy Commission, I find it
kind of interesting that there seems to be ignoring some of the words in
the statute.”
Mr. Ewert told the Commission that two members of a five-member body
can, indeed, have informal policy discussions under the Bagley-Keene
Open Meeting Act – because two is not a majority of the body. He also
noted that in the case of the CPUC, a commissioner with particular
expertise on a topic can share information or a report with CPUC staff,
which in turn, can inform all the other board members. “So long as that
person does not communicate to members of the legislative body the
comments or positions of other members of the body,” he added.
Representatives for the CPUC and CEC countered, however, that their
regulatory work often involves issues in which companies have tight time
frames and millions of dollars, even billions of dollars, on the line. They
said the legal risk of having decisions challenged over Bagley-Keene Act
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issues is simply too high to justify the more liberal interpretation of the
act suggested by Mr. Ewert.
Mr. Ewert, however, addressing suggestions that the law be modified
slightly to clarify some of this legal uncertainty expressed by state
government attorneys, told the Commission, “All of these solutions would
likely be unconstitutional, contrary to the will of the people and would
promote a public policy that embraces secret government. In light of
recent reports describing the coziness between the CPUC and the utilities
it regulates, it shocks the conscience that this issue is worthy of
consideration,” he testified.
The Commission heard similar opposition to revisiting the 2009 and
2008 changes from Peter Scheer, executive director of the San Rafael-
based First Amendment Coalition, and Terry Francke, General Counsel
for Californians Aware, the Center for Public Forum Rights. At the
Commission’s October 2014 advisory committee meeting, Mr. Scheer,
said, “I’m not so convinced that the Bagley-Keene Act is broken in its
current language.” Mr. Scheer said he is sympathetic to the notion that
some agencies “need a mechanism” to communicate, but said he fears
that new changes could go too far in the other direction. “It would be too
hard to police. How do you know what’s substantive and what’s non-
substantive? Most cases would tend toward the middle and be a gray
area for commissioners and for interested parties wanting to know what
was discussed.”
Mr. Francke, responding to a former California mayor’s remarks about
the need at the local level to informally discuss some issues with
colleagues outside public meetings – while still not coming to
concurrence on a vote – said, “I hear you talking about the need to keep
political secrets.” Mr. Francke said it is part of the job of public officials
to talk frankly in public forums “and take the heat for doing so.”
The Brown Act and Local Government
The Commission’s extensive review of the 2009 Bagley-Keene Act
changes and their impacts on state-level governing eventually led it also
to consider impacts of the 2008 Brown Act changes on operations of local
and regional government entities. Thousands of elected officials in
California – mayors and city councilmembers, county supervisors, school
board members and those elected to run 2,300 special districts – fall
under the provisions of the Brown Act, as do the members of numerous
advisory bodies and commissions appointed by the locally elected
officials. Just as the Bagley-Keene Act limits informal discussions
outside public board and commission meetings, the Brown Act prevents
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a majority of local elected officials from talking informally about their
issues outside of public meetings.
The Commission initially encountered limited success in attempting to
determine whether the 2008 Brown Act changes hampered or
constrained local governing throughout California. Many local elected
officials were reluctant to participate at the Commission’s public advisory
committee meetings or speak on the record regarding their private
frustrations with the Brown Act changes. Most said the risks of media
backlash and criticism in their communities were too high. As the study
progressed, however, the Commission eventually heard from local elected
officials who publicly confirmed that the same governing difficulties
reported by state officials due to the Bagley-Keene Act changes are
occurring locally due to the Brown Act changes. The Commission’s
December 2014 statewide survey of city, county and special district office
holders provided more anecdotal accounts, although anonymous, of
significant governing challenges resulting from Brown Act constraints on
informal discussions among elected officials.
The Commission’s exploration of the Brown Act involved initial
conversations with the California State Association of Counties and the
League of California Cities, a partner in drafting the original
1953 Brown Act, and also the 2008 changes sponsored by the CNPA.
Representatives of both associations reported to the Commission that
they have heard few reports from their members about problems
complying with the 2008 Brown Act changes. At the Commission’s
October 2014 advisory committee meeting, a League of California Cities
representative explained that while the process of complying with the
current standards of the Brown Act may at times be frustrating, local
officials are functioning within its environment. The League
representative said the current standard is working “despite how
frustrating it may be.” The representative also said city councilmembers
and mayors are “accepting this reality” and are progressively getting
better at finding a balance to discuss issues among themselves and the
need to make decisions.
Some Local Elected Officials Provide a Different View
At the Commission’s October 2014 advisory committee meeting however,
former Long Beach Mayor Bob Foster disagreed with the League’s
assessment, telling the Commission that the 2008 Brown Act changes
have, indeed, limited councilmembers’ ability to talk privately among
themselves about even the most general local policy issues. He said the
Brown Act constraints on informal conversations outside public meetings
tend to isolate decision-makers from one another and result in poorer
quality decisions. Mr. Foster acknowledged the contentions by CNPA
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and other First Amendment groups that public officials should conduct
all their conversations at the microphone, but said doing so is politically
and realistically impossible.
“You say you can do it in public, but there you don’t have the ability to
say stupid things. Some opponent will post it online and cram it,” he
said. Mr. Foster said it works the same way at the state level. “If
commissioners were to play devil’s advocate, the public might
misinterpret their position, use it against them and demand a recusal
from the decision.” Mr. Foster said Brown Act rules that limit policy
discussions to public meetings do not lead to better decisions.
The Commission heard similar contentions about Brown Act constraints
on informal discussions and their consequences for local governing at its
May 28, 2015, advisory committee meeting. There, four city
councilmembers and a board member of a nonprofit arts organization
formerly bound by the Brown Act, described their difficulties in gathering
information, deliberating effectively and making good decisions because
of Brown Act limitations on informal conversations. They also engaged in
further public dialogue on the 2008 Brown Act changes with Mr. Ewert of
CNPA.
During a roundtable discussion, participants described how the changes
have created less transparency at City Hall instead of more, and given
lobbyists, city staff and outside interests additional power to influence
votes for their own ends. They also described the ease of unintentionally
violating the Brown Act, the ever-present fear of Brown Act lawsuits and
the hundreds of thousands of dollars in public funds paid to litigants.
When asked by the Commission during the discussion why local
government attorneys interpret the 2008 Brown Act changes so
conservatively and restrictively, City of Indian Wells Mayor Pro Tem Dana
Reed answered, “Because they keep losing in court.”
Mr. Reed told the Commission that Brown Act charges are tossed about
almost casually during controversial issues. “That seems to be the
number one claim when people are upset. ‘Oh, you violated the Brown
Act,’ when they don’t even know what the Brown Act is.”
Restrictions on Informal Discussions
Several participants in the meeting said they were surprised upon being
elected at their inability to bounce general policy issues off their
colleagues informally, learn much from one another or have the kind of
talks outside public meetings that might lead to good compromises.
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“I want to go back to the first week I got elected, my second day in office
in 2012,” Concord City Councilmember Edi Birsan told the Commission.
“I arranged a meeting with a current councilmember, bringing a list of
the 40 things I wanted to do. The next week I met with the city attorney.
He said, ‘You are prohibited from talking about those ideas with the
other councilmembers.’ That’s absurd.” Birsan said he also was advised
at a League of Cities training session on the Brown Act to “defriend”
members of the council on his Facebook account because a series of
online postings could be considered an illegal meeting.
Mr. Birsan said he has since learned to designate one other
councilmember on his five-member council as his “Brownie,” meaning he
can talk informally with just that member on a particular topic. “Who is
the Brownie I can talk to on bikes? Who is the Brownie I can talk to on
the Concord Naval Weapons Station? That’s a $20 billion deal and I’m
allowed to have a discussion with one person,” he said.
Mr. Birsan added, “I also have a billion-dollar development with 28,000
people going to move in and we’re about to pick a master developer and I
can only talk to one of my guys?”
Los Angeles City Councilmember Robert Blumenfield, elected in 2013
after serving in the Legislature from 2008 to 2013, said he was
immediately struck by the Brown Act limitations on talking with council
colleagues in contrast to the Legislature, “where the way you get things
done is to talk to people.” He told the Commission at the May 2015
meeting, “I have a committee of three members, which I chair. If I go to
the Rand Corporation for a policy conference with 500 people where
Bill Gates is speaking on the future of technology in government and
someone tells me a member of my committee is also there (at a meeting
that is not public, but also not publicly noticed under the rules of the
Brown Act) I have to leave and can’t listen to Bill Gates in a crowd of 500
people.”
Mr. Blumenfield also discussed his limited options to talk informally with
other members of the seven-member council committee that crafted a
$15 minimum wage proposal approved in May 2015 by the 15-member
council. “All members who are not on that committee can hardly weigh
in until it comes to the council already cooked,” he said.
Fellow Los Angeles Councilmember Paul Krekorian also told Commission
staff in a May 2015 interview that he lacked ability to weigh in on the
minimum-wage proposal before it came to a vote. He said any
councilmember could go to a bar, baseball game or farmers market and
talk to anyone there about whether a new minimum wage was a good
idea or a bad idea, or what percentage increase made it a better idea.
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But he couldn’t have the same informal discussion with colleagues who
were crafting the idea.
One Commissioner suggested that provisions of the U.S. Constitution
might overrule the Brown Act’s restrictions on the deliberative process in
legislative bodies such as city councils. The Commissioner specifically
cited Article 1 Section 1 of the Constitution, which declares, “All
legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the
United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of
Representatives.” The Commissioner contended that the Constitution
grants immunity to people involved in a legislative process for
participating in the central deliberative process of talking freely and
without restrictions. He suggested more legal emphasis on giving the
public the ability to be heard, to know what information is part of the
record before making a decision and seeing the legislative findings
behind a decision “as opposed to probing the mind of the people making
the decision.” Mr. Ewert, representing the CNPA, countered that
Brown Act violations do not fall under the umbrella of the
U.S. Constitution, and if so, a First Amendment argument against
violators would prevail.
City of Sacramento Vice Mayor Allen Warren told the Commission about
his council’s use of ad hoc committees that contain less than a voting
majority of the nine-member council and discuss general policy issues
before taking a proposed direction public. “Before it comes to a final
decision it helps us get at bigger issues, whether they are about water or
the Sacramento Kings arena,” he said. As of May 2015 the council had
three ad hoc committees, including the Good Governance Ad Hoc
Committee chaired by Mr. Warren to discuss proposals for an ethics code
and citizens commission that may draw city council district boundaries.
The vice mayor acknowledged the restrictions noted by Mr. Blumenfield
and Mr. Krekorian, saying sometimes a councilmember feels left out of
these committee discussions or hears gossip about its direction from
outside sources, including the media. “We can’t talk to that person to
iron it out,” he said. “As time goes on they may take an anti-position.”
A Recipe for Less Transparency in Local Government
Not surprisingly within the uniquely human institutions of local
government, the lobbyists and interest groups, as well as unelected
government staff, recognize the limited ability of decision-makers to talk
with one another and find ways to exert stronger influence themselves on
outcomes and decisions, participants said. Their third-party power is in
having more inside information about the direction of a potential vote
than the elected officials operating under Brown Act restrictions. Many
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have described this scenario to the Commission as a major unintended
consequence of open meeting act changes, saying that it drives more
public decision-making down to the staff level or completely out of sight.
“You can get outgunned by lobbyists,” Mr. Blumenfield told the
Commission. “They can have a voting card on any issue. They can talk
to all the councilmembers. I have lobbyists telling me what’s going to fly
and what’s not going to fly. Outside interests have more knowledge and
control than we have on the inside. They craft compromises that carry
the day.”
Mr. Warren told the Commission, “The fact that lobbyists can move
around information is troubling. But more powerful are the city
managers. They can say, ‘Your counterpart is thinking this or thinking
that.’ You can be manipulated.”
Mr. Reed offered an example from Indian Wells where a retired attorney
quietly brokered a council consensus on a particular issue that had long
gone unresolved. “He took it upon himself to call people, present it to all
the councilmembers (individually) and say, “If you introduce this, I think
you can get five votes.”
“He was the sixth councilman,” a member of the Commission responded,
hearing the story. “Yes,” answered Mr. Reed. “The guy had good
intentions. But you have lobbyists who aren’t good.”
Mr. Birsan said another parliamentary tactic that stems from rules
limiting internal communications and the simultaneous need for a
council vote to put items on its agenda is “to grab a third party and ask
them to bring up a matter obtusely. These workarounds usually involve
third parties, which in the spirit of the Brown Act, is a gross violation.”
Finally, Mr. Blumenfield explained to the Commission how a council can
itself play politics with the Brown Act restrictions on informal
conversations among more than two colleagues on a particular issue. “If
you wanted to silence a member from talking to someone else, you just
get to them first and you lock them out.”
“That’s exactly what happens,” added Mr. Birsan.
Abuse of Public Comment Opportunities Required by the
Brown Act
The Commission also learned about another dimension of the Brown Act
from Mr. Blumenfield, who described repeated abuse of public comment
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opportunities at Los Angeles City Council meetings. Mr. Blumenfield
said a group of the same commenters add approximately 14 hours
monthly to council meetings by offering remarks on nearly every agenda
item, and often in an abusive fashion.
“We have 10 or more who come in and sing crazy songs, curse like
drunken sailors and use funny voices,” he said. (A Commission staff
review of the May 26, 2015, Los Angeles City Council video showed one
commenter wearing a red Ku Klux Klan costume. Blumenfield told the
Commission this commenter won a significant legal cash settlement from
the city after his behavior led a city commission “that wasn’t lawyered
up” to usher him out of the room during a meeting).
“The Brown Act has created a circus atmosphere and disrespect to the
public process,” he told the Commission. Mr. Blumenfield said one
visiting group of fourth graders was subjected to a commenter describing
a sex act. “Millions of dollars of staff time and council time that could be
used to solve problems is taken up by these 10 people,” he said. “This
unbridled comment is creating less public input. The real public gets
disgusted and leaves.”
Sherry Diamond, a board member with the Arts Council for Long Beach,
which recently declared itself free from Brown Act obligations due to no
longer having a grant funding relationship with the City of Long Beach
Redevelopment Agency, said under the Brown Act their meetings were
routinely disrupted by public comment from the same people.
“I mean a public of two in a city of half a million people, who considered
it their mission to derail the agenda and take us down rabbit holes and
disrupt and interfere with the business at hand.” Often, Ms. Diamond
said, the commenting had little to do with the agenda item, and was
more about attacks on the volunteer board of directors.
Mr. Blumenfield told Commission staff in an interview that the
Legislature doesn’t tolerate similar behavior during its committee
meetings. “We would not allow that in Sacramento,” he explained.
“There was a level of decorum. I could ask the sergeants to take them
out.”
Mr. Ewert told the Commission that the Brown Act does allow an elected
body to block comment that goes off topic – and remove a commenter
from the room. But he also told the Commission that drawing the line
between free speech and abusive speech is difficult. “We struggled with
this,” he said. “What is legitimate comment and what is not?”
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A Debate About Solutions to Brown Act Constraints
“I appreciate that this is a difficult issue to try to get the sweet spot,” Los
Angeles City Councilmember Paul Krekorian told Commission staff
during an interview before the May 2015 advisory committee meeting.
The Brown Act does great things to move away from smoke-filled rooms.
We don’t have the old environment of bosses. That’s all good, but it
comes with an inherent loss of quality of debate and information
gathering. I wish I could give you where that sweet spot is. I don’t know.
But I feel we have excessive constraints.”
During its May 2015 advisory committee meeting, Commissioners
suggested that adding just a few words to the Brown Act’s statutory
language might offer greater clarity for government attorneys and allow
more informal general discussions that don’t seek concurrence on
upcoming votes.
“That would be a great step forward,” Mr. Birsan replied.
Mr. Ewert, general counsel of the CNPA, disagreed. He repeated a
contention he made at two previous Commission meetings on California’s
open meeting laws: It is difficult to draw the line between informal
conversations about general issues and conversations that eventually tilt
toward consensus reached in private and not in public at an open
meeting. He told the elected participants in the Commission’s advisory
committee meeting, “Each and every one of you are public servants with
the best of intentions. It doesn’t enter your mind that there are others.
The Brown Act protects the public from those people. It is the most
egregious examples where the Brown Act protects the public. Most
Brown Act lawsuits deal with egregious violations.”
Asked again by the Commission how California lawmakers might adjust
the Brown Act’s statutory language to ease the problems described by
meeting participants, Mr. Ewert said, “We don’t think it’s broken. With
respect to the problems, there is a way to do this. Deliberate openly.
Deliberate publicly.”
The Commission’s Brown Act Survey of Elected Officials
In the Commission’s anonymous survey conducted in December 2014, a
majority of local elected officials confirmed and echoed the sentiments
expressed by participants in the October 2014 and May 2015 meetings.
The Commission received 271 responses – including 209 from board
members of special districts, 19 from county supervisors and 43 from
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city councilmembers and mayors. The anonymous surveys, conducted
electronically via SurveyMonkey software, were distributed by the
Sacramento-based California Special Districts Association, California
State Association of Counties and League of California Cities.
The Commission recognizes that 271 responses are a small sampling of
statewide opinion and cannot be assumed to be statistically valid.
Participation rates have generally been less than 10 percent of all
members in each of the three categories. More, the responses are
anonymous, which limits the Commission’s ability to gauge credibility.
But the message from this sampling is relatively clear and consistent. A
majority of respondents feel their information-gathering efforts outside
public meetings are constrained by the 2008 legislative changes to the
Brown Act and the resulting legal uncertainty over the two words “to
discuss.” Many officials participating in the Commission’s survey
responded that their inability – or perceived inability – to discuss issues
with colleagues outside of public meetings has lowered the quality of
decision-making within their boards or councils. A two-thirds majority of
respondents recommended Brown Act changes that would allow two or
more members of the body to discuss issues generally outside public
meetings under the condition that they not try to form a consensus or
count votes on specific issues before them.
Nearly all respondents from special districts, city councils and county
boards of supervisors said their legal counsels advise a strict
interpretation of the Brown Act. These strict legal interpretations,
responding officials said, help avoid costly lawsuits. They also limit
politically-driven allegations of Brown Act violations, which are frequently
made by interest groups and citizens as they consider and decide
controversial issues.
Generally, local government respondents echoed testimony provided by
state officials and agency lawyers at the Commission’s August 2014
hearing. That is, they must strictly and narrowly interpret the words, “to
discuss” to limit their legal exposure regarding decisions that are often
controversial and have millions or billions of dollars at stake.
One city council member, operating within these legal constraints,
explained, “Currently there is so much confusion surrounding this act
that many folks would prefer not to speak with one another than to risk
being in violation of the Brown Act.”
Despite this confusion, a sizeable minority of survey respondents argued
for making no changes to the Brown Act. Some said that too many local
government bodies already play fast and loose with the act – or haven’t
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taken time to understand it. Loosening the standards, these officials
said, would only encourage additional unnecessary secrecy and provide
pathways for more violations. A chart detailing the overall sentiments of
respondents is listed in Appendix C.
An Insightful Range of Individual Brown Act Experiences
The Commission also received dozens of insightful essay responses that
described perceived problems and compliance issues with the Brown Act
in everyday governing of thousands of local jurisdictions in California. A
selection of comments received by the Commission is included in
Appendix D. These survey responses, while not statistically validated to
claim an accurate rendering of opinion among California’s elected
officials, nonetheless provided the Commission a thought-provoking
sample of sentiment regarding compliance issues with the Brown Act.
The survey offered many examples of legal confusion and perceived
problems in information gathering and decision-making as a result of the
2008 changes. Yet even those favoring more freedom often recognize that
there is a fine line, easily crossed, between discussion and consensus
building. The Commission is grateful for cooperation of the California
Special Districts Association, California State Association of Counties
and League of California Cities in distributing the survey to their
members on behalf of the Commission.
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EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS: TALKING PRIVATELY WITH GOVERNMENT
Ex Parte Communications: Talking
Privately with Government
Each day inside California’s massive state government thousands of
“Ex parte
lawyers, business representatives, environmental advocates and
lobbyists for the powerful enter the offices of legislative and agency communications
decision-makers and talk one on one, and in private. Few outside these are neither
meetings ever know the arguments advanced or the policies advocated, intrinsically evil,
and there is no opportunity to rebut the points of these conversations –
nor intrinsically
except to schedule a similar private meeting with the decision-maker.
good.”
An ancient Latin legal term describes these conversations as “ex parte
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communications.” That is, they are communications “by or for one
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party,” or “by one side.” Lobbying is another, perhaps more familiar way,
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to characterize these conversations between interest groups and
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government officials.
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Generally, ex parte communications in state government are initiated by
Commission.
representatives of an interest group, corporate organization or trade
.
association trying to inform or influence a developing or pending
legislative or executive branch decision. But they also can work the
other direction. Government decision-makers frequently use them to
obtain expert information relevant to a pending decision or vote. One
federal court has described these communications as the “bread and
butter” of government administration – an endless series of back-and-
forth conversations that keep decision-makers in touch with regulated
interests and the public – and those interests and the public inside the
loop with government officials.11
Yet for all the perceived helpfulness of these private conversations in
maintaining open lines of communication, they also contaminate public
attitudes toward government. Much of the public believes these constant
private oral conversations tilt the scales toward influential interests
experienced in getting appointments with decision-makers – and rig the
system in their favor.
“We have thought for years this is one of the most important subjects in
government,” Edward Howard, senior counsel of the University of San
Diego School of Law’s Center for Public Interest Law, told the
Commission at its March 2015 hearing.
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These thousands of daily, secret ex parte communications represent a
third dimension – in addition to Bagley-Keene Act and Brown Act
impacts on governing – of the Commission’s review of transparency rules
and governing issues in state government. Though different, in that the
open meeting acts guarantee public access to the conduct of government
business and ex parte rules provide fairness to varying and even
opposing interests involved in government decisions, the two are
interrelated as open government issues.
During its 10-month review, the Commission consulted with numerous
experts on ex parte rules, policies and practices in state government.
Many advised the Commission during an August 2014 hearing and
October 2014 roundtable discussion on the topic. More testified at a
March 2015 Commission hearing. As it conducted its review, the
Commission examined current and historical views about the legality
and appropriateness of these off-the-record conversations and heard
about their pros and cons.
The Commission also reviewed ex parte rules and practices at specific
California state agencies and learned about those used at federal
agencies. Commissioners considered such issues as whether more of
these communications should be disclosed, what should be included in
those disclosures and who has the responsibility to enter the disclosure
into the public record?
In addition, the Commission considered whether relaxing open meeting
laws – to allow more informal private discussion among elected and
appointed officials – might be compensated by requiring more airing and
disclosure of ex parte conversations. Guiding the Commission’s inquiry
throughout the review was this overriding question: What is the proper
balance between the public’s right to know and officials’ need to govern
effectively?
Different Rules for the Legislature and the
Executive Branch
California’s state government operates with a variety of differing ex parte
rules and policies that require lobbyists and advocates to be experts at
what kind of conversations are allowed when and where, and when they
must be disclosed publicly and to what extent. In the Legislature,
private conversations are an uninhibited, central factor in daily
information gathering and deliberations. Anyone can talk with anyone at
any time. Lawmakers and lobbyists can tell others about their private
conversations or keep them secret from one another. But in the
executive branch, the rules are often gray and complicated. Private
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conversations between outside interests and decision-makers are legal
and appropriate in some instances and types of formal proceedings and
illegal in others.
Here, briefly, is an introduction to the landscape of ex parte
communications – both the art of pulling aside a government
decision-maker to quietly discuss and privately influence a pending
issue, or asking questions from within a government agency to gain a
larger perspective:
Private conversations are banned in all adjudicatory (judicial-
type) proceedings in which state agency decisions are made by
administrative law judges or hearing officers after hearing
evidence from contending parties. Typically, these proceedings
involve revoking permits and issuing cease-and-desist orders or
cleanup orders as part of enforcement actions, as well as granting
some permits. These proceedings follow the rules of court, in
which judges can consider only evidence presented at an open
trial and not arguments made privately in their chambers. The
Commission did not address, nor consider recommending
changes to ex parte rules in adjudicatory matters.
Private ex parte communications are largely allowed and
encouraged in informal rulemaking proceedings of state
government, where agencies adopt regulations for such matters
as safe food and drinking water, nursing home safety or energy
efficiency in new homes – and make decisions after public
hearings and public comment periods.
Private ex parte conversations also are permitted in so-called
“quasi-legislative” proceedings where agencies decide general
policy issues that affect broad classes of people and not individual
interests alone. An example is the California Energy
Commission’s biennial Integrated Energy Policy Report which
considers “trends and issues concerning electricity and natural
gas, transportation, energy efficiency, renewables and public
interest energy research.” But there also are a variety of hybrid
proceedings within state government that contain elements of
both judicial and legislation proceedings – such as granting
permits or setting electricity rates charged to consumers – all with
a mix of rules.
Most ex parte communications are oral and most are not
disclosed publicly. A handful of state agencies, primarily in hotly-
contested arenas of natural resources and energy, have rules and
practices in which officials disclose their private conversations.
Most ex parte communications are initiated by stakeholders.12
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Informal Rulemaking: What It Is and How It’s Done
Informal Rulemaking is the process by which executive branch agencies develop the regulations and
specific details, rules and standards to implement broad policies enacted by the Legislature. When the
Legislature, for example, enacts tougher water quality standards, the rulemaking process develops the list
of contaminants and allowable safety levels. The process is governed by rules of the California
Administrative Procedure Act enacted in1945. California state agencies propose an average of more than
700 rulemaking packages annually.
Examples of Regulations created by Informal Rulemaking
The California Air Resources Board Cap and Trade program: The executive branch designed it
to implement a legislative mandate to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that contribute to global
warming.
The Department of Toxic Substances Control Safer Consumer Product Regulations: The
executive branch designed them to implement legislation requiring lower concentrations of toxic
ingredients in consumer products.
The steps in Informal Rulemaking
The Legislature passes and Governor signs statutes which contain broad policy mandates, which
executive branch agencies must interpret and craft into more detailed regulations or rules.
The agency gathers input from stakeholders and government sources to assess the potential
scope of a proposed rule.
The agency files a formal Notice of Proposed Rulemaking outlining the subject and text of the
proposed rule. This starts a one-year clock to adopt the rule.
The agency conducts a public hearing on the proposal and takes written comments during a
45-day period.
If the agency makes substantial changes as a result of comments it mails a Notice of Proposed
Changes and provides another 15-day comment period.
The agency adopts the regulation and sends it to the Office of Administrative Law for approval.
Sources: Office of Administrative Law. “The Regular Rulemaking Process.”
http://www.oal.ca.gov/regular_Rulemaking_Process.htm. Also, Little Hoover Commission. “Better Regulation: Improving
California’s Rulemaking Process.” October 2011. Pages 8-10. http://www.lhc.ca.gov/studies/209/Report209.pdf.
California State Agencies: Few Have Ex Parte Rules
During its review the Commission learned that only a handful of
California state agencies have rules regulating ex parte conversation.
Only a few also impose disclosure requirements on private conversations
held during informal rulemaking and quasi-legislative or quasi-judicial
matters. Most of these agencies, boards and commissions regulate in the
fields of energy, the environment and natural resources – areas of great
complexity monitored by numerous stakeholders and powerful interest
groups. As a result, these stakeholders and interest groups are vitally
interested in what the others are communicating to appointed and
elected officials.
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“It’s fair to say all sides are worried that all the other sides are having ex
parte communications,” said Michael Strumwasser, a March 2015
Commission witness retained by the CPUC to update its ex parte rules.
The rules governing ex parte communications within California state
government originate in the state’s Administrative Procedure Act (APA)
drafted by the California Judicial Council and enacted on June 15, 1945.
The act was amended in 1947 and 1979, and was again updated in 1995
through SB 523 (Kopp), following a seven-year study by the California
Law Revision Commission.
The California APA explicitly prohibits ex parte communications during
judicial-type proceedings conducted at state agencies.13 But it is silent
on ex parte communications in informal rulemaking and quasi-judicial or
hybrid proceedings. This silence has enabled state agencies to set their
own rules. Most, consequently, have no rules, policies or restrictions for
private oral communications with interested parties during rulemaking
and policymaking. A few agencies – the University of California Board of
Regents, Board of Equalization and California Public Utilities
Commission – won exemptions in 1995 from being covered by the APA.14
Similarly, the federal Administrative Procedure Act, adopted in 1946, is
silent on ex parte communications during informal rulemaking. Like
California, federal agencies have a variety of policies and rules that in
some cases welcome ex parte communications and in others discourage
or even refuse them.
Here is a snapshot of California agency rules and policies regarding ex
parte communications:
California Public Utilities Commission: The CPUC adopted its current
ex parte rules and practices on July 31, 1991, after a process of public
participation and comment.15 The CPUC conducts three types of
proceedings: adjudicatory, quasi-legislative and rate-setting, each with
its own ex parte requirements. Some of these proceedings’ categories
blend into one another, creating gray areas and opportunities for
controversy. Among the rules in place at the CPUC:
Ex parte communications are prohibited in adjudicatory
proceedings, where enforcement actions, complaints and
investigations are resolved.
Ex parte communications are mostly allowed with no restrictions
or reporting requirements in matters of rulemaking or quasi-
legislative proceedings, such as considering whether to revise
regulations regarding safety of utility infrastructure.
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Ex parte communications are
Lawmakers Consider Bill to Restrict
permitted with restrictions and reporting
Ex Parte Conversations at the CPUC
requirements in ratesetting proceedings.
The 2015-2016 legislative session has featured debate on Oral ex parte communications are permitted
a flurry of proposals to toughen ex parte rules for quasi-
at any time by any commissioner, as long as
legislative and other proceedings at the California Public
all interested parties are invited and given
Utilities Commission. As of June 2015 these proposals
no less than three days public notice. The
are largely contained in one bill, which passed the Senate
on June 2, 2015 and awaits consideration in the responsibility to disclose is on the
Assembly.
stakeholder.16
The bill, SB 660, by Senator Mark Leno, D-San Francisco
and Senator Ben Hueso, D-San Diego, proposes several The CPUC, as noted earlier, retained Mr.
new restrictions and conditions on ex parte Strumwasser to revise its ex parte rules in
communications at the commission: the wake of controversy regarding allegedly
Ex parte communications in quasi-legislative illegal and unreported private
matters, currrently allowed without restrictions, communications between officials and
are reported within three days. regulated utilities. In written testimony
Responsibility to report both allowed and Mr. Strumwasser explained, “There appears
prohibited ex parte communications is on CPUC to be a widespread recognition that the
decision-makers. Commission has lost public confidence in
New rules for handling prohibited ex parte the fairness and independence of its
communications at the CPUC. regulatory actions and in the ethical
behavior of its officials. There seems to be a
Unspecified fines and imprisonment for
violations of ex parte communications rules. sense that the path to restored public
confidence lies in increased transparency
Source: SB 660. Legislative Information Service. Senate Floor Analysis.
http://lisprdweblb.calegis.net:7010/LISWeb/faces/bills/bill_search_results. and accountability.”
xhtml.
On June 22, 2015, Mr. Strumwasser
announced his findings in a report
proposing tighter restrictions on CPUC ex parte practices. Those
included a new ban on ex parte contacts in ratesetting proceedings and
mandatory detailed disclosure of ex parte communications in
quasi-legislative proceedings. Responsibility to disclose would be on the
CPUC decision-maker.17
State Water Resources Control Board: The state’s water boards,
which fall under provisions of the APA, modified and loosened their ex
parte practices on January 1, 2013, following passage of SB 965
(Wright). Lawmakers enacted the bill in the wake of Little Hoover
Commission recommendations made in its January 2009 report, Cleaner
Water, Cleaner Structure: Improving Performance and Outcomes at the
State Water Boards. The report recommended allowing more ex parte
contacts between water board regulators and the regulated to foster more
two-way communications in decision-making processes.
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Rules currently in place at the board:
Ex parte communications are prohibited in adjudicatory
proceedings.
Ex parte communications are allowed in legislative-type
proceedings.
Ex parte communications are generally allowed, but require
disclosure in hybrid proceedings “such as the issuance of certain
general permits.”18
California Energy Commission: The CEC falls under provisions of the
APA. Its policies state:
Ex parte communications are generally prohibited during
adjudicatory proceedings which at the CEC primarily focus on
power plant siting.19 Although subject to narrow exceptions set
forth in the APA, no comments can be made to a decision-maker
unless in a public meeting or written in the public record.
Communications outside public meetings are allowed in general
policymaking and rulemaking issues, which are the majority of
the Commission’s activities. The CEC does not require disclosure
of those oral conversations, but does attempt to include all factors
relevant to its decision-making in the public record.
California Air Resources Board: The ARB also falls under the APA.
The board’s policies state:
Ex parte communications are prohibited in adjudicatory
proceedings.
Ex parte communications are allowed and encouraged in
rulemaking and quasi-legislative proceedings. Generally, ARB
board members disclose their ex parte contacts and the subject
matter of communications during board meetings.20
California Coastal Commission: The Coastal Commission is exempt
from the APA. Its rules, effective January 1, 1993, are established via
the California Coastal Act of 1976 in the Public Resources Code. In
general:
Ex parte communications by stakeholders and interested persons
with individual commissioners are prohibited unless they are
disclosed. When disclosed, these communications are allowed in
permit application cases, but not in enforcement cases.
The law requires that ex parte communications that occur more
than seven days before a hearing must be disclosed in writing.
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Those that occur less than seven days before a hearing must be
disclosed at the microphone during the hearing.
Generally, no written materials should be sent to commissioners
unless copied to all and also to commission staff.21
Considerable legislative activity continues to swirl around the specifics of
ex parte policies at the commission. Enactment last year of AB 474
(Stone) added new requirements for disclosure. It makes coastal
commissioners identify the person on whose behalf the communication
was made and identify everyone present during the communication. It
also requires a more complete description of the content, including all
text and graphic materials provided to the commissioner.22 The
commission also considered a legislative proposal to allow property
owners in pending enforcement cases to conduct ex parte
communications with individual commissioners. In the face of
widespread opposition by commission and coastal stakeholders, as well
as a negative opinion from the California Attorney General’s office, that
proposal failed to gain traction.23
The Case that Ex Parte Communications Are Necessary for
Governing
Months of controversy over oral and email ex parte communications
between some CPUC members and the utilities they regulate have cast
these communications in an unfavorable light and spurred moves to rein
in ex parte communications practices. Michael Picker, appointed
president of the CPUC in December 2014, noted as one of his first orders
of business on January 15, 2015, that the commission had hired
Mr. Strumwasser to “review best practices we should adopt that help
enforce internal ex parte rules.” He added, “We have also banned one
utility, PG&E, from all ex parte communications.”24 A pair of state
lawmakers also introduced legislation in 2015 to greatly broaden
restrictions on ex parte communications at the CPUC. The bill, SB 660,
which passed the Senate in June 2015 and awaits action in the
Assembly, has fueled expert concerns that California may go overboard
in banning or scaling back ex parte communications – and require public
disclosure of conversations throughout state government and in the
informal rulemaking process. Several communicated these concerns
directly to the Commission:
“I am opposed to amending the APA (Administrative Procedure Act) to
either prohibit oral ex parte contacts in rulemaking or to require that
they be memorialized in memoranda,” stated Mr. Asimow of the Stanford
Law School in written testimony for the March 5, 2015, hearing.
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The California Energy Commission’s Mr. Oglesby wrote the Commission
on February 3, 2015, expressing the CEC’s hope that “proposals to add
new ex parte restrictions to ratesetting proceedings should not
encompass quasi-legislative proceedings as well.”
Mr. Oglesby told the Commission, “We have seen no evidence of
unfairness or bias under the existing public participation requirements
that apply to quasi-legislative proceedings and believe that extending a
solution identified for ratesetting proceedings would impede important
policy discussions without creating any discernible benefit for the
public.”
Mr. Asimow and others told the Commission there is value for both sides
of the conversation in private, off-the-record talks between regulators
and interest groups. Mr. Asimow, in his March 2015 written testimony,
stated: “Often the agency heads need to have conversations with
stakeholders to help them understand the issues presented by a
rulemaking. Realistically, the agency heads can’t read through the
voluminous comments filed by the public. They need to get a handle on
the issues through informal discussion with outsiders. By the same
token, stakeholders want and need to get their views across to the
regulators in oral presentations. This is an inherent part of the political
process.”
Similarly, Commission witness Esa Sferra-Bonistalli, author of the 2014
Administrative Conference of the United States (ACUS) study, “Ex Parte
Communications in Informal Rulemaking,” said at the Commission’s
March 2015 hearing, “I would say there’s more good than bad in ex parte
communications. I don’t believe ex parte communications create
unfairness in rulemaking.”
In the 2014 ACUS study, Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli wrote, “Ex parte meetings
foster relationships with agency personnel and may hold future value by
revealing what the agency is thinking regarding the rulemaking or
potential future agency actions. Ex parte meetings also help
stakeholders craft better written comments in the future because they
discover what the agency needs and wants to know. And for some public
stakeholders, at the very least, it is still important to engage in ex parte
meetings in order to show that it did everything possible to make its
positions and interests known as part of the rulemaking. This is
especially so for organizations representing collective interests.”25
Mr. Asimow, Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli and other supporters of unrestricted
ex parte communications have long cited a 1981 US. District Court of
Appeals (District of Columbia Circuit) opinion by Chief Judge Patricia
Wald. In the case of Sierra Club v. Costle, Judge Wald wrote:
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“Under our system of government, the very legitimacy of
general policymaking performed by unelected
administrators depends in no small part upon the
openness, accessibility, and amenability of these officials to
the needs and ideas of the public from whom their ultimate
authority derives, and upon whom their commands must
fall … Furthermore, the importance to effective regulation of
continuing contact with a regulated industry, other affected
groups, and the public cannot be underestimated.”
Mr. Asimow told the Commission that it would be going against the tide
of established practice and opinion if it recommended new restrictions on
ex parte conversations or additional disclosure requirements for informal
rulemaking across the whole of the executive branch.
Likewise, Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli testified to the Commission that within
the federal government there has been a retreat from 1970s sentiment
favoring ex parte restrictions. Most of the ex parte practices still in use
at federal agencies date from that time of acute concern and activism
regarding government transparency and the perceived power of regulated
interests. The Administrative Conference of the United States, a small
federal agency that promotes efficiency, adequacy and fairness in federal
regulatory procedures, adopted several recommendations in 2014
favoring the ability of regulators and the regulated to talk privately,
including one stating: “Agencies should set a general policy encouraging
or remaining neutral toward ex parte communications.”26
The Case Against Unregulated Ex Parte Communications
Experts generally agree that the largely unlimited proliferation of private,
off-the-record ex parte conversations throughout the executive branch of
government is what gets things done and makes actions happen. But
the Commission also heard during its review that private conversations
between regulators and the regulated – and lack of disclosure of these
conversations – contributes to a public perception that government
processes are rigged to favor influential interests.
A December 2014 Public Policy Institute of California survey supports
this contention. Findings showed that two-thirds of those surveyed
agreed that “state government is pretty much run by a few big interests
looking out for themselves” rather than for the “benefit of all the
people.”27 The depth of this sentiment has proved consistent for more
than a decade, according to the PPIC, and as shown in the chart on the
following page.
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Would you say the state government is pretty much run by a few big
interests looking out for themselves, or that it is run for the benefit
of all people?
A few big interests Benefit of all people
17%
25% 23% 24% 26% 28%
38%
75%
65% 68% 67% 67% 67%
54%
Jan-02 Jan-04 Jan-06 Jan-08 Jan-10 Jan-12 Jan-14
Source: Public Policy Institute of California. PPIC Statewide Survey: Californians and the Future
During the Commission’s review, representatives of the University of San
Diego School of Law Center for Public Interest Law (CPIL) repeatedly
advocated for limits on ex parte communications in the everyday work of
the executive branch. In testimony, representatives of CPIL described
ex parte communications as “concealed lobbying” that has caused
advocacy efforts toward state government to become “increasingly and
alarmingly imbalanced” in favor of the powerful.
“The fact that legislators operate in extreme ex parte license has infected
the executive branch with a similar mindset,” stated Mr. Fellmeth,
executive director of the Center for Public Interest Law, in written
testimony for the Commission’s October 23, 2014, roundtable meeting on
ex parte and open meeting act issues. Mr. Fellmeth told the
Commission, “The agencies are divided into territories that correspond to
the interests of specific economic-stake lobbies. They attend all meetings
and are much involved in their own regulation – regulation intended and
designed to constrain them vis-à-vis the general public. It is the latter
that is the touchstone of a democracy. Our system properly separates
the public domain from profit-stake interests.”
At the Commission’s March 2015 hearing, Mr. Howard, senior counsel
for the Center for Public Interest Law, testified that “secret ex parte
communications are among the most effective ways for powerful
regulated interests to accomplish their objectives. This is because they
can influence the opinions or bias the views of unelected and largely
anonymous regulators and staff without the public, the press, or their
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opponents ever knowing that the communications-lobbying has
occurred.”
Mr. Howard added, “In the absence of such knowledge, the press and the
public cannot hold decision-makers fully accountable for the fairness
and quality of their deliberations, and resource-strapped advocates who
might oppose those interests in a matter won’t know to re-direct their
limited resources to do so.”
Inside state government, a 2013 State Water Resources Control Board
guide to ex parte communications warned board members about the
possible negative impressions of their ex parte conversations: It stated,
“Ex parte communications may contribute to public cynicism that
decisions are based more on special access and influence than on the
facts, the laws, and the exercise of discretion to promote the public
interest.”28
Mr. Howard specifically recommended that ex parte communications be
limited throughout state government – particularly in the informal
rulemaking process. He said private conversations with interest groups
should stop after the agency files a formal Notice of Proposed
Rulemaking, outlining the subject and text of the proposed rule and
starting a one-year clock to adopt the rule.
“Once a rulemaking has begun that’s like court. The agency should not
allow ex parte communications,” Mr. Howard told the Commission.
Disclosing Ex Parte Communications
Given the negativity sometimes associated with off the record and
unreported conversations between interest groups and public officials,
the Commission also reviewed the potential remedy of increased
disclosure of these oral conversations. Presently, as noted earlier in this
chapter, few state agencies have ex parte rules. The few with rules use a
variety of approaches to disclosure. Those range from disclosing
contacts orally at meetings to posting brief online accounts of ex parte
conversations. Others, as noted in the snapshot of agency practices
earlier in this chapter, require written communications be distributed to
all commissioners or require notices that invite all stakeholders to an
anticipated conversation. Many of these rules exist for those gray areas
or hybrid situations that fall between informal rulemaking and
adjudicatory proceedings.
The federal government, too, has a variety of disclosure practices.
Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli noted that agencies such as the Department of
Justice, Federal Emergency Management Agency, Federal
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Communications Commission and others require written summaries of
private ex parte communications with outside interests. Some agencies
require the outside party to write the summary. Others put the
responsibility to disclose on their own officials. The required timing to
make those disclosures range from “promptly” to two or three business
days or 20 calendar days after the communication. (See Appendix E for
practices at 17 federal agencies).
As might be expected, there are a variety of issues and opinions about
whether ex parte conversations within the state’s executive branch
should be disclosed. There are many questions, as well, about who
should disclose the conversation and in what detail. Disclosure rules are
an especially controversial sector within the larger issue of ex parte
conversations, and recommendations received by the Commission from
various experts will be discussed in more detail in the next chapter.
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Changes for Effective and Open
Governing
A modern administrative state with issues and complexities at the scale
of California requires optimal governing processes to assure quality
information gathering and decision-making by its thousands of officials.
Maintaining a clean, open government that thwarts temptations toward
corruption and favoritism also requires adhering to “sunshine” laws and
policies that control open meetings, ex parte communications and access
to public records.
Yet many officials working in state and local government and
stakeholders who engage with them believe that a key plank of
transparent government in California – its open meeting laws – works
contrary to sustaining effective governing. Specifically, these interests
have suggested to the Commission that it favor and promote new
amendments to the state’s Bagley-Keene Act and its local government
equivalent, the Brown Act. Most contended in testimony and roundtable
discussions that well-intentioned changes enacted to the Brown Act in
2008 – and the incorporation of those changes into the more complex
administrative machinery of state government through the Bagley-Keene
Act in 2009 – triggered unintended consequences. Those consequences,
the Commission heard repeatedly during its 10-month study, impede
information gathering and decision-making processes critical to running
California.
The Commission agrees with that consensus.
Testimony, roundtable discussions and personal interviews show that
2009 Bagley-Keene Act and Brown Act changes have confused many of
the state’s appointed and elected officials and stirred widespread fear of
legal violations. More, they have sowed such abundant caution that
officials are afraid to talk with and learn from colleagues on boards,
commissions and local elected bodies about even the most general policy
issues. All point toward a governing problem that requires addressing.
Throughout the Commission’s study, the California Newspaper
Publishers Association, which sponsored the strict, broadly interpreted
rules for conversations among appointed state officials, contended just
the opposite. The CNPA maintained that the problem is not with the
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acts, but with conservative interpretations of the acts by overly cautious
state government attorneys. The California Attorney General’s office in
August 2014 also defended the current laws as workable for state
agencies, stating, in the case of the California Public Utilities
Commission specifically, “Comparatively less efficiency is the price
commissioners must pay to afford the public a full opportunity to
participate in its decision-making process.”
“Each nonpublic or serial communication is a missed opportunity for the
public to participate,” Deputy Attorney General Ted Prim stated in an
August 25, 2014, letter to the Commission.
Yet during the course of its study the Commission came to understand
why state agency and local government attorneys continually steer their
appointed and elected clients to the side of caution rather than risk in
trying to comply with the post-2009 Bagley-Keene Act and post-2008
Brown Act. Given the broad legal interpretations of the acts, attorneys
repeatedly told the Commission it is imperative that they shield their
agencies’ controversial, multibillion-dollar decisions from any possibility
of legal challenges that use the open meeting act as an entry point.
At the state level, California Energy Commissioner Karen Douglas
amplified this legal fear of conversing with agency colleagues in
August 2014. She told the Commission, “What my attorney has told me
many, many times is the more of that you allow, the more it’s human
judgment. It comes down to, ‘Well what was that conversation about?’
Suddenly you could have someone wanting to depose someone over what
was that conversation about?” Describing the commonly-held agency
view of the legal risks, she said, “Given the consequences, both
reputational and for the work we do, and legal, and frankly in terms of
the public’s faith in government, to any sort of stumble I’m just going to
say flat out … there’s a limit I won’t push beyond.”
At the local level, Arts Council for Long Beach Board Member
Sherry Diamond said the nonprofit’s board members – when covered by
the Brown Act because of their relationship with the city’s redevelopment
agency – were always unsure of their ability to discuss council policy
among themselves. “We always felt we were in danger of putting
ourselves on the wrong side of the law. It was very hard to stay on the
good side of the law,” Ms. Diamond said.
The Little Hoover Commission heard and has experienced itself similar
cases of being constrained by confusion about what constitutes
appropriate internal discussion or defines when a discussion should be
considered a public meeting. A discussion or event attended by two
members might legally be considered an internal discussion. But the
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same event attended by three might require posting a public noticing of a
meeting – even if three attendees are substantially less than a majority of
the entire body and none of them are making decisions. In the case of an
informational tour this raises logistical complications about how to find
room for an unknown number of public attendees in a meeting moving
from one location to the other. Whether an event should be considered a
public meeting or not usually comes down to a state attorney’s
interpretation of the Bagley-Keene Act – and an entity’s sense of the legal
risks and possible public and media criticism. Many entities, the
Commission heard during its study process, err firmly on the side of
caution as described by Ms. Douglas and Ms. Diamond.
In the Commission’s case, it has publicly noticed informational tours of a
state prison facility and a public high school, establishing both as public
meetings attended by just three Commissioners of a 13-member body.
Neither tour involved decision-making. Another informational visit with
judges was nearly cancelled when judges who wanted to speak freely to
the Commission declined to come if it was a public meeting. The
Commission resolved the problem by limiting attendance to two
Commissioners, depriving other members of valuable first-hand judicial
perspective. Such instances limit the ability of a state or local entity and
its leaders to gather information in an informal setting. As a result, more
of that information is gathered by staff, which filters it upward to the
board, commission or elected body instead of being gathered directly by
those appointed by the Governor and Legislature or elected by the
people.
Minor modifications in statute language could handily clarify how to
comply with the Bagley-Keene Act and the Brown Act in ways that honor
their intent and allow officials leeway to make smarter policy.
A Need to Address Bagley-Keene and Brown Act
Issues
The Commission, throughout its study, has maintained the importance
of Bagley-Keene Act and Brown Act compliance as first among governing
priorities. The Commission’s witnesses equally asserted their beliefs in
the primacy of strong protections for citizens to watch their government
make policy and regulations in the open. In written testimony to the
Commission, Mr. Fellmeth, executive director of the University of San
Diego Law School’s Center for Public Interest Law, affirmed the
Commission’s core belief:
“The underlying purpose behind the Bagley-Keene Act is to
allow transparency to decisions as they are being made.
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The public (including the media) is able to see the debate or
discussion, have some sense of the basis for the decision
and to observe who voted which way. And there is
opportunity to know in advance what subject matter will be
decided so public comment can be obtained (both before
and at the final decision-making meeting). In this way, a
board not only solicits comments that may limit unintended
consequences, but it also provides a crucial element of
legitimacy, where the governed see the government
intended to serve them as it acts.”29
In his August 2014 testimony, Mr. Fellmeth also further defined the
issue of serial meetings, setting the stage for the Commission’s inquiry
into the alleged problem, discussion of possible solutions and the
recommended changes in this chapter:
“A “meeting’ does not occur with a conversation between
two board members. But it is broadly interpreted and
where a conversation between two concerning an aspect of
board business that is then extended to a third, there can
be a ‘sequencing’ of conversations (also called ‘serial
communications)’ that amounts to a ‘prearranged decision’
in violation of the purpose of the BK Act. And such an
ordering is particularly problematical with a small board or
commission, in this case where a third person forms a
determinative majority of three.”
The Commission fully supports the virtuous democratic intentions of
the Bagley-Keene Act and the Brown Act. Yet it cannot support the
unintended consequences that seem to have arisen with its most recent
amendments. The 2009 and 2008 changes enacted by the Legislature
and signed by Governor Schwarzenegger appear to be ripe, by most
accounts provided to the Commission, for fixing.
“There needs to be a serious relaxation of Bagley Keene so that the
members of agencies can engage in uninhibited discussion of important
management and policy issues (without making final decisions on
them),” the Commission heard in March 2015 from Mr. Asimow of
Stanford Law School.
“Free us up,” said Concord City Councilmember Edi Birsan during a
May 2015 Commission advisory committee meeting on the Brown Act.
“We understand the problems of smoke-filled rooms. We’ve got to be able
to deal with this in a manner where we are the educated people and
discuss things among ourselves rather than third parties such as
lobbyists.”
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“The sensible resolution of this issue, as with many issues, is to follow
the wisdom of Aristotle, ‘moderation, moderation in all things,’” added
Mr. Fellmeth in August 2014 testimony to the Commission.
A Range of Possible Solutions
The Commission, indeed, heard and considered a variety of seemingly
moderate solutions to enhance governing while maintaining
transparency. Ideas ranged from returning to the older statute language
that required the avoidance of internal consensus on an upcoming vote
or decision to adding a few words to the current statute to add greater
legal clarity regarding the two words “to discuss.” Some of those ideas
applied throughout the breadth of state and local government, while
others focused more narrowly on complicated full-time multi-member
agencies such as the CPUC.
In the case of the CPUC, Michael B. Day, partner with the San Francisco
legal firm of Goodin, MacBride, Squeri & Day, Inc., recommended with
five other representatives in March 2015 testimony, that the Legislature
add specific language to the Public Utilities Code – “to clarify that a
discussion between Commissioners and advisors of the merits of a
proposed decision, ruling or order of the CPUC does not constitute a
collective concurrence in violation of the Act, so long as the
Commissioners do not disclose or commit to their decision or intention to
vote a particular way on an item.”30
Mr. Day told the Commission that the Legislature could add similar
language to the Government Code to apply more generally to other state
agencies, boards and commissions. Essentially, the proposed language
(see Appendix F) states that, “A discussion by a member of the
commission of the merits of any item of business within the subject
matter jurisdiction of the commission …. does not constitute a collective
concurrence if the member of the commission does not disclose his or
her decision or intention to vote on the item.” The same kind of language
is easily transferrable to local government through a small change in the
Brown Act.
Mr. Fellmeth proposed a similar short amendment to the Public Utilities
Code at the Commission’s August 2014 hearing.
“11122.5 (b) (2) Where an agency is governed by a multi-
member board or commission of full-time employed persons
whose duties include administrative agency functions, such
members and their intermediaries may communicate among
themselves as to background or general information
concerning the subject matter of the agency’s jurisdiction
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and as to logistical arrangements relevant to allocation of
workload, scheduling, and related organizational issues.
However, those communications shall not propose,
advocate, or comment upon the merits of any substantive
decision pending before the agency.”
In written testimony to the Commission, he stated that the new
language, specifically as related to the CPUC, “would seem to preserve
the substantive purposes of the Bagley-Keene Act, while recognizing the
somewhat more compelling need of this agency to coordinate its
operations between the offices of the five commissioners.”
With minor revision this language also might be generally adapted with
different words to the Government Code for other state agencies and local
government entities.
The California Energy Commission’s Mr. Oglesby wrote the Commission
on February 26, 2015, proposing two options to allow limited types of
communications between members of a state entity outside open
meetings:
“For example ‘item of business’ could be defined as any issue that
will be coming before the state body for a vote within a specified
period of time.
The second option is to add a specific exemption to subdivision
(b)(1) of Section 11122.5 to permit discussions of general policy
nature or those necessary to carry out the state body’s executive
functions.”
Mr. Oglesby told the Commission that either option “would make intra-
agency coordination and administration more efficient, while not
impinging on the right of the public to participate in Commission
proceedings.”
Representatives of First Amendment and media interests said, however,
they remain unconvinced that the Bagley-Keene Act and the Brown Act
require modification. Open meeting act legal experts from the California
Newspaper Publishers Association, Californians Aware and the First
Amendment Coalition expressed reservations at nearly all of the
Commission’s public hearings and meetings about new statute language
to permit general discussions among appointees to boards and
commissions and officials elected to local entities so long as they don’t
reach a collective consensus on upcoming votes or decisions.
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All said it can be difficult for participants to tell the difference between a
substantive and a non-substantive conversation and for outsiders to
effectively police such conversations for the larger public interest.
“Where do you draw the line,” asked the CNPA’s Mr. Ewert at the
Commission’s May 28, 2015, roundtable discussion on the Brown Act.
Michael Lauffer, general counsel of the State Water Resources Control
Board, acknowledged to the Commission that it can become difficult for
appointed state commissioners or board members “to self-police.” He
said one option, however, is to have the agency’s counsel present at the
internal discussions and keep confidential minutes which would be
available to the courts in the event of a legal challenge.
Suggestions from Present and Former CPUC Commissioners
Public Utilities Commissioner Michael Florio told the Commission at its
August 2014 hearing that returning to the pre-2009 Bagley-Keene Act
language represented a possible alternative. That language simply
prevented private communications designed to achieve concurrence on
upcoming decisions, instead of preventing any internal discussions by a
majority of the body. Mr. Florio testified that CPUC commissioners need
a communications mechanism to gather background and educate
themselves on issues outside of formal meetings.
“That does not mean that we should have ‘secret backroom deals’ or
other collusive practices,” he testified, “but the old rule against ‘collective
concurrence’ was sufficient to ensure that did not happen.
“The better alternative in my view would be to return to the prior
provisions of Bagley-Keene that banned only “collective concurrence”
among the commissioners outside of a public meeting and allowed
communications among commissioner advisors as long as no such
concurrence was formed,” Mr. Florio said.
The Little Hoover Commission also reviewed a suggestion made by former
CPUC Commissioner Mark Ferron in his Final Commission Report on
January 16, 2014. Writing before the Little Hoover Commission began
studying the state’s open meeting acts, Mr. Ferron proposed that the
CPUC try a new approach to work within the restrictions of the Bagley-
Keene Act. Mr. Ferron stated in his final report:
“My colleagues and I have discussed arranging ourselves
similarly in the way that a Board of Directors is organized in
corporate America: We could create subcommittees dedicated
to overseeing important internal issues like Audit, Budget,
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Personnel, External Relations, and Safety. These two-
Commissioner subcommittees would meet regularly with
senior directors and staff to provide strategic direction and
would report on progress and seek policy direction from all
five Commissioners on a regular basis. This arrangement
could help give the Commissioners a more effective senior-
level oversight without violating Bagley-Keene and I believe
would create a stronger and more effective agency.”
The Attorney General’s Office, in a 2014 conversation with the
Commission, said Mr. Ferron’s idea was worth discussing as a way to
ease the CPUC’s difficulties with the Bagley-Keene Act. The Attorney
General’s Office said two-member CPUC subcommittees would not exist
as a quorum, but could report to the full Commission. While it would
require further legal analysis, “It’s not out of the realm of possibility,” a
representative of the office said.
Other Suggestions: More Frequent Use of Public Meetings
Defenders and sponsors of the Bagley-Keene Act 2009 changes and 2008
Brown Act changes suggested during the Commission’s study process
that more frequent public meetings might address state and local agency
concerns about the inability to discuss issues among themselves.
Peter Scheer, executive director of the San Rafael-based First
Amendment Coalition, said during a 2014 telephone conversation with
Commission staff that one solution to the CPUC’s difficulties, in
particular with the Bagley-Keene Act, might be more commission
meetings. “They work 40 hours a week. What’s to prevent them from
having a meeting every morning?” he asked.
A representative from the California Attorney General’s office, also taking
part in the call, noted that each daily meeting would require its own
10-day notice. Replied Mr. Scheer: “There is a possible obstacle in the
10-day notice. Maybe there are creative ways to address that and hold
meetings to their hearts content.”
The idea of more frequent public meetings for appointed and elected
officials to discuss policy issues also arose during the Commission’s
advisory committee meetings.
Mr. Lauffer told the Commission that since the 2009 amendments to the
Bagley-Keene Act the State Water Resources Control Board “has gone to
more public workshops before decision-making. Over time the meetings,
which identify broad priorities, have been more effective,” he said.
Mr. Lauffer told the Commission the workshops have created an arena
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for collective dialogue to discuss broad and organizational issues. He
said members feel more comfortable discussing these issues in a public
workshop setting. The meetings are publicly noticed.
As noted in the first chapter, the California Coastal Commission added
an item on its agenda each month for commissioner comments – a venue
in which Commissioners discuss issues among themselves in public.
Coastal Commissioner Mary Shallenberger, in an August 25, 2014, letter
to the Commission, also described the commission’s routine public
briefings and workshops where commissioners learn about and discuss
larger policy issues. Commissioner Shallenberger said the sessions are
well attended by stakeholders, broadcast on the Web and are “an
excellent demonstration of conducting public policy discussion in an
open, transparent and public manner.”
At the Commission’s October 2014 advisory committee meeting,
J. Jason Reiger, assistant general counsel at the CPUC, suggested a
similar discussion forum in written form: scoping memos for discussion
among commissioners prior to the public process of decision-making.
The scoping memos would give commissioners flexibility to collectively
discuss what information is needed to set the right policies, he said.
California Should Adjust its Open Meeting Acts
The Commission agrees that it is difficult to draw the line between
informal private conversations among decision-makers about general
policy issues and informal conversations that casually, illegally drift
toward consensus. Testimony from hearing witnesses, discussions
among experts at advisory committee meetings and staff conversations
with attorneys, academics and government officials showed that no one
knows precisely, or at least legally, how to draw that line to produce both
optimum public access and effective governing.
It is unfortunate then, but perhaps inevitable that changes made to the
state’s open meeting laws for the noblest of reasons have triggered
consequences not anticipated by their authors. Designed to protect the
public from the most egregious practitioners of secret government, they
have tied the majority of appointed and elected officeholders in knots as
they try to learn about important issues and make quality decisions.
Public attorneys who might have helped them unravel those knots have
instead advised a general caution so extreme that those who step up to
govern California say they are afraid to talk to one another or even be
seen together beyond public meetings.
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Upon hearing city council members outline for the Commission the
intricacies of governing cities while navigating Brown Act constraints, the
CNPA’s Mr. Ewert, who led the 2008 legislative effort to change the
Brown Act, acknowledged, “The Brown Act isn’t perfect. I’ll admit that.
It is the result of a lot of political hands at work.” Yet the organization
and other First Amendment interests have insistently maintained that
the law itself, as currently written, is not the problem and have pledged
to fight new attempts to amend it.
The CNPA, which also sponsored the 2009 changes to the Bagley-Keene
Act, has stated throughout the Commission’s study process that the
state’s open meeting laws do allow informal conversations between less
than a majority of an appointed or elected body. The organization has
similarly, and understandably, criticized the narrow interpretations of its
legislative intent by government attorneys fearful of open meeting act
lawsuits.
Nonetheless, these legal interpretations and all the other consequences
described in this report have become an undeniable part of the California
landscape. The Commission’s long examination of the state’s open
meeting acts clearly shows that perception of the open meeting acts by
public officials and their attorneys is reality. Reality cannot be argued
away by saying the laws aren’t broken or that office holders always have
complained about being constrained by open meeting laws.
A reconsideration is in order.
The Commission also is concerned about the abuses of public
commenting opportunities it learned about during its May 28, 2015,
advisory committee meeting with city councilmembers and other officials
throughout California. This element of the Brown Act requires additional
review with much broader input from local public officials before any
comprehensive recommendations can be determined. The Commission
suggests that the point made by Los Angeles City Councilmember
Robert Blumenfield that neither the Legislature, nor the courts would
tolerate the abuse that many city councils and other local entities receive
from people in open meetings is valid.
Among the comments received in the Commission’s anonymous
December 2014 survey on the Brown Act, one respondent suggested that
the League of California Cities or California State Association of Counties
put together a working group to take a fresh look at these kinds of issues
and recommend a way forward. The Commission believes this would be
well worth doing.
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Addressing the State Ex Parte Landscape
For more than 70 years in the executive branch of state and federal
government, decision-making has steadily moved away from judicial-type
processes that involve parties making their cases and cross-examining
one another before administrative law judges or hearing officers – and
toward deliberative processes resembling to some degree those of the
legislative process. This new landscape of administrative decision-
making is best known as a “quasi-legislative” process or “informal
rulemaking.”
In March 2015, Commission witness Michael Strumwasser described this
quasi-legislative process and informal rulemaking in a simple sentence:
“The core of the process is a notice-and-comment procedure whereby the
agency promulgates a draft recommendation and supporting material,
the public is afforded an opportunity to comment, the agency makes any
changes in response to the comments, and the agency then may adopt
the regulation, which is reviewed by the Office of Administrative Law for
legal sufficiency.”
What fuels this executive branch decision-making – in much the same
way it fuels the legislative process – is frequent, largely unreported ex
parte contacts between government agency officials and representatives
of the interests they regulate. As noted earlier, California’s
Administrative Procedure Act is silent on the question of ex parte
communications in informal rulemaking and allows agencies to set their
own rules. Most have none.
These ex parte contacts testify to the political nature of state government
rulemaking. Mr. Asimow described it as follows in March 2015
testimony to the Commission:
“Rulemaking is a political process that calls for making
hard choices and difficult compromises. The interests—
often vital interests—of the general public and of regulated
parties are at stake. Making rules calls for the exercise of
wisdom and discretion and often the tradeoffs involved are
quite political in nature. For examples, rules frequently
trade off public environmental benefits against business
costs. Drawing these kinds of lines is an inherently
political process.”
The Commission considered during its study whether the benefits of
closed-door meetings between government and regulated interests
outweigh the drawbacks. The benefits are clear: an unfettered flow of
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information that helps interest groups make their cases and public
officials learn from experts about the arenas they regulate. The
drawbacks are equally clear: an appearance of impropriety and public
cynicism that the administrative process is rigged in favor of influential
interests with time and money on their side.
Recent months have brought widespread media attention to the
drawbacks – in particular, to ex parte contacts between major California
utilities and the California Public Utilities Commission. The CPUC
controversy played out during much of the Commission’s review of open
government issues in California. Allegations that CPUC officials
conducted frequent private, unreported and illegal ex parte contacts with
large energy companies have spurred the legislation described earlier in
this report, SB 660, to clamp down on ex parte practices and rules at the
agency. By implication, this has called into question the ex parte
practices at all state agencies
The Commission heard an abundance of views regarding ex parte
contacts during quasi-legislative proceedings and rulemaking during its
study process. The most common refrain from state and federal experts,
practitioners and state agency officials was to leave the rules that
currently govern them largely intact.
“The recent controversy regarding ex parte communications appears to
stem almost entirely from violations of those existing rules,” testified
Mr. Day and his five co-signers at the March 2015 hearing. “Accordingly,
our recommendations in the area of ex parte rules focus on improving
the application and enforcement of the existing framework of ex parte
rules, rather than banning ex parte communications generally.”31
The California Energy Commission’s Mr. Oglesby expressed similar
sentiment in a February 26, 2015, letter to the Commission. Mr. Oglesby
stated, “Because these quasi-legislative proceedings already have
sufficient protections in place to provide public access and participation,
and because of the importance in ensuring open channels of
communication for information gathering, ex parte restrictions would
impose unnecessary burdens in these proceedings without improving
fairness or impartiality.”
“… Agency heads should be free to seek policy or even political advice
from anyone they choose, inside or outside of the government,”
Mr. Asimow testified to the Commission in March 2015. “Lobbying is
acceptable because it is so valuable to stakeholders and to the agency
itself. So long as the resulting rule meets the standard of reasoned
decision-making and is supported by the rulemaking record, it should
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not be overturned by a court, even if extensive undisclosed lobbying took
place during the rulemaking process.”
Added Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli in March 2015 testimony, “Ex parte
communications cannot truly be prohibited or avoided. Ex parte
communications will occur, at least unknowingly, from within and
outside the agency regardless of agency policy.”
Commission Support for Expert Consensus
The Commission supports this expert consensus. If Californians
embrace the concept that they live in an administrative state and expect
their administrative agencies to act as quasi-legislative bodies, the
agencies should be open to input and outside perspective – same as the
Legislature. A wide-ranging limitation of ex parte communications
throughout state government would negate nearly seven decades of
agency practices and California Administrative Procedure Act silence on
the issue – as well as run against the grain of leading opinion on the
issue in the states and in the federal government. Worst perhaps, it
could contribute to the same unintended governing consequences as
those just described regarding the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act and
the Brown Act.
The Commission considered such consequences at the State Water
Resources Control Board in its January 2009 report, Cleaner Structure,
Cleaner Water: Improving Performance and Outcomes at the State Water
Boards. The report noted that strict prohibition against ex parte
communications at the agency had the effect of making board members
“unapproachable,” as well as the unintended consequence of
undermining stakeholder confidence in the board’s regulatory system.
During the study, people said the strict ex parte rules at the water board
and its nine regional boards limited “regulated entities’ ability to discuss
important and complex issues with board members.” The Commission’s
report stated: “Instead, local governments, businesses and other
stakeholders are often limited to just a few minutes of testimony before
the board during a formal hearing, despite the profound fiscal impact
board decisions can have on these regulated entities.”
The Commission, noting that the strict rules had sowed lack of trust in
the water board and lack of understanding of why it made its decisions,
recommended that the board and its regional bodies adopt the less
stringent rules used by other state agencies “that allow for
communication between regulators and the regulator as long as they are
disclosed in a public meeting.”
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Subsequent legislation enacted in 2012 – SB 965 (Wright) – eased the
rules to allow ex parte communications about issues concerning certain
pending general orders of the water boards. The legislation also imposed
disclosure requirements on stakeholders who initiate certain ex parte
communications, requiring them to describe the substance of the
communications, identify all participants and include all materials used
during the meeting. Board members also report their contacts with
regulated entities at public meetings.
Mr. Lauffer, general counsel of the State Water Resources Control Board,
explained the why behind the new rules and disclosure landscape to
board members in an April 25, 2013, memo: “Essentially, ex parte rules
allow everyone to know and, if desired, rebut the information upon which
the water boards make decisions before they make their decisions. The
rules are also intended to ensure that all board members have a common
record upon which to make their decisions and that a court will be able
to ascertain the bases for such decisions.”32
A Middle Ground: More Disclosure of Ex Parte Communications
While the Commission does not propose new limits on ex parte
communications on quasi-legislative proceedings throughout state
government, the water boards offer an example and alternate route of
potential reform. The Commission believes the ease and convenience of
digital technology highlights such pathways for additional transparency.
During the Commission’s study process no group advocated harder than
the University of San Diego School of Law Center for Public Interest Law
for limiting ex parte communications throughout the executive branch of
state government. But short of that, representatives of the center also
advocated for more public reporting and disclosure of private, off-the-
record conversations between outside interests and executive branch
officials.
Mr. Fellmeth contended to the Commission that, at the very least, if
policymakers oppose limiting ex parte conversations, more of these
communications should be disclosed electronically to give all involved in
a policy change the ability to rebut or counter arguments made in private
conversations with decision-makers.
Disclosure is a frequently-advocated reform for ex parte communications
practices. Ms. Sferra-Bonistalli also told the Commission, “I urge
disclosure in lieu of restrictions. A posture of welcoming ex parte
communications and a policy of disclosure can maximize the benefit
while minimizing the potential harms of ex parte communications.”
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The Commission heard from many that digital technology makes it easier
than ever to post a quick online summary of a private meeting.
Participants in conversations – in which responsibility is typically on the
stakeholder – can simply type a quick record of the engagement and send
it to the agency for posting. Emails can be posted at an online central
index, as can replies and rebuttals from other stakeholders.
The Center for Public Interest Law’s Mr. Howard told the Commission,
“The disclosure doesn’t have to be onerous. Here’s what you need: Who
did I meet with? When? What was the agendized item? What was the
position argued? But the actual position or arguments made is less
important than documenting that the meeting happened,” he said.
In written testimony to the Commission in March 2015, Mr. Howard
stated CPIL’s general case for more disclosure:
“Done sensibly, disclosure – openness generally – works to
restore confidence in government because it does in fact
have a salutary, anti-corrupting impact on the operations of
government. It also lends balance to the information-
gathering of decision-makers by alerting advocates that
their voices are needed as a counter-weight in this or that
proceeding or with this or that regulator. It also does not
dissuade lobbying, as if lobbying could be dissuaded, and
has no impact on legitimate, policy-based arguments as
there is no reason to be ashamed of such positions, or a
need to cloak them in secrecy. In fact, if the argument is a
good one, the person communicating it should want
disclosure to better hold the decision-maker accountable if
the good argument is not heeded.”
Mr. Day likewise testified to the Commission in support of better
disclosure as an alternative to banning ex parte communications.
Mr. Day and his five co-signers singled out CPUC disclosure procedures
in particular. They called for more substantive accounts of conversations
between CPUC officials and those they regulate. Mr. Day told the
Commission at its March 2015 hearing, “In many cases such notices are
filed with only a general description of the subject matter of the contact.
Other parties are not able to respond to a particular argument or issue
because the notice is far too vague about the content of the
communication.”
Mr. Day suggested that the CPUC amend its rules to require that
stakeholders file a supplemental disclosure if the agency deems that the
original notice lacked appropriate substance.
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“We suggest that the CPUC specifically require that ex parte notices
regarding oral communications should provide a full summary of the
advocacy that occurred during the ex parte contact, including a list of
the principal arguments or points made to the regulator(s),” he testified
to the Commission. Mr. Day also told the Commission that such
changes would require extensive “policing” by the CPUC and other
stakeholders for maximum effectiveness.
Rules requiring more substantive reporting by stakeholders on their
discussions with executive branch officials during quasi-legislative
proceedings could apply far beyond the CPUC and be adopted by any
state agency.
Other Views: The Challenges of Disclosure
The Commission heard extensive criticism of additional disclosure
requirements and recognizes that attempts to bolster these requirements
will likely meet resistance from powerful interests. One expert contends,
for example, that additional disclosure rules will add to existing state
agency responsibilities and stretch staff resources. In written testimony
to the Commission, Mr. Asimow stated, “Because I believe that California
already overregulates the adoption of regulations, I oppose any additional
restrictions on the rulemaking process, such as by requiring agencies to
prepare memoranda on all oral ex parte communications between agency
officials and stakeholders.
“Such a requirement would increase agency workloads,” Mr. Asimow told
the Commission. “Either agency personnel must write summaries of
their discussions with stakeholders or, if the memoranda are prepared by
stakeholders, agency staff members have to read them carefully to make
sure they are accurate and complete. This would be just one more time-
consuming step necessary to get a regulation out the door.”
Mr. Asimow also told the Commission that disclosure requirements
might inhibit the free flow of information between regulators, the
regulated and other stakeholder groups – a position also expressed by
California Energy Commission officials. Mr. Asimow stated in
March 2015 testimony, “A requirement that all outsider policy advice to
the agency heads must be recorded in a memorandum and included in
the record would often discourage people from furnishing the advice and
the agency heads from seeking it. Or it would inhibit the candor with
which views are expressed in a private meeting. Or, as already pointed
out, the memo that summarizes such conversations will conceal far more
than it reveals.
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“We recognize an agency shouldn’t be required to disclose the content of
all staff communications to the agency heads, because this would
discourage the staff from furnishing candid policy advice. For the same
reason, there should not be a blanket requirement that stakeholder
communications with agency heads be disclosed,” stated Mr. Asimow.
Resistance to Disclosure from Lobbyists
Mr. Howard testified to the Commission with a specific example of
resistance that can be expected and which he encountered from
regulated interests in 2008 when working on a disclosure bill, SB 963
(Mark Ridley-Thomas). The legislation proposed that advocates and
lobbyists disclose their ex parte conversations with boards and
commissions housed within the Department of Consumer Affairs.
Mr. Howard said approximately 50 lobbyists for trade associations and
licensed professionals that frequently interact with the Department of
Consumer Affairs opposed the legislative effort during his first outreach
session.
“The language was eventually stripped from the bill,” he told the
Commission in written testimony. “Preceding this, a slate of regulatory
boards – ironically, lobbied ex parte – began taking opposing positions on
the bill owing to the ex parte provision.”
“It was a nonstarter,” Mr. Howard told the Commission, summarizing one
lawmaker’s attempt to require disclosure of ex parte communications in
just one corner of state government. “They (trade associations) saw no
advantage in a new policy. They can do what they want now.”
The Little Hoover Commission itself encountered widespread reluctance
from trade associations and lobbyists it contacted to publicly discuss or
testify about ex parte communications or disclosure issues.
In light of the widespread interest and concerns about transparency
issues throughout California, the Commission makes the following
recommendations to defend public access to its governments while
ensuring that those who govern have the tools to effectively do so:
Recommendation 1: The Legislature should adopt new language to various state
government codes to clarify that appointed officials of state boards and commissions can
hold informal internal discussions among two or more members about general policy
issues related to their work so long as the discussions are not used to develop
concurrence or consensus on an upcoming vote or decision in violation of the Bagley-
Keene Open Meeting Act.
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Recommendation 2: The Legislature should adopt new language to various state
government codes to clarify that local elected officials and their appointees to local and
regional government bodies can hold informal internal discussions among two or more
members about general policy issues related to their work so long as the discussions are
not used to develop concurrence or consensus on an upcoming vote or decision in
violation of the Ralph M. Brown Act.
Recommendation 3: A working group led by trade associations such as the League of
California Cities, California State Association of Counties, California Special Districts
Association and California School Boards Association should consider a fresh legal
approach to maintaining decorum and policing public comment during open meetings –
in line with that employed by the Legislature – that will help rein in abuses by some
members of the public.
Recommendation 4: The State of California should retain all existing executive branch
policies that ban ex parte communications in adjudicatory proceedings. The state also
should retain its current array of ex parte policies that provide useful information to
executive branch decision-makers and govern a variety of quasi-legislative proceedings,
quasi-judicial proceedings and a variety of hybrid proceedings with consideration as to
additional transparency and accountability.
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Appendices & Notes
Public Hearing Witnesses
Little Hoover Commission Public Meetings
Results from Brown Act Survey of 271 Elected Officials from
Local Government and Special Districts
Views of Elected Officials on Brown Act Compliance:
A Sampling of Opinion
Ex Parte Practices of Selected Federal Government Agencies
Suggested Language to Amend Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act
Notes
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Appendix A
Public Hearing Witnesses
Public Hearing on the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act
August 26, 2014
Sacramento, California
Karen Douglas, Commissioner, California Michel Florio, Commissioner, California Public
Energy Commission Utilities Commission
Jim Ewert, General Counsel, California Michael J. Levy, Chief Counsel, California
Newspaper Publishers Association Energy Commission
Robert Fellmeth, Executive Director, Center J. Jason Reiger, Assistant General Counsel,
for Public Interest Law, University of San California Public Utilities Commission
Diego School of Law
Public Hearing on California’s Open Meeting Acts
March 5, 2015
Sacramento, California
Michael B. Day, Partner, Goodin, MacBride, Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli, Consultant and
Squeri & Day, LLP former federal agency Liaison Representative
to the Administrative Conference of the United
States
Edward Howard, Senior Counsel/Senior Policy Michael J. Strumwasser, Partner,
Advocate, Center for Public Trust Law, Strumwasser & Woocher, LLP
University of San Diego School of Law
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Appendix B
Little Hoover Commission Public Meetings
Advisory Committee Meeting on
Fine-Tuning Transparency Rules for Government Decision-Making
October 23, 2014
Sacramento, California
Jaclyn Appleby, Chairman Horton’s Office, Jennifer Henning, Counsel, California State
California State Board of Equalization Association of Counties
Vicki Bermudez, California Nurse Association Dorothy Holzem, Legislative Representative,
California Special Districts Association
Damien Brower, City Attorney, City of John Howard, Editor, Capitol Weekly
Brentwood, Member of the League of
California Cities Brown Act Committee
Faith Conley, Legislative Representative, Ditas Katague, Commissioner Catherine
California State Association of Counties Sandoval’s Chief of Staff, California Public
Utilities Commission
Camille Dixon, Chairman Horton’s Office, Jacqueline Kinney, Principal Consultant,
California State Board of Equalization Senate Energy, Utilities and Communications
Committee
Jim Ewert, General Counsel, California Katie Kolitsos, Special Assistant, Assembly
Newspaper Publishers Association Speaker Toni G. Atkins
Toby Ewing, Consultant, Senate Governance Michael Lauffer, General Counsel, State Water
and Finance Committee Resources Control Board
Robert Fellmeth, Executive Director, Center Galen Lemei, Office of Chief Counsel,
for Public Interest Law, University of San California Energy Commission
Diego School of Law
Doris Fodge, California Water Projects Alicia Lewis, Legislative Representative,
Association League of California Cities
Robert Foster, Mayor of Long Beach, 2006- Frank Lindh, Partner, Crowell & Moring,
2014 San Francisco, California
Terry Francke, General Counsel, Californians Angela Mapp, Principal Consultant, California
Aware State Assembly Committee on Local
Government
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Tony Marino, Legislative Aide, Senator Jerry Jason Pope, Attorney, California Gambling
Hill Control Commission
Scott Merrill, Staff Attorney, California J. Jason Reiger, Assistant General Counsel,
Newspaper Publishers Association California Public Utilities Commission
Jeffery Ogata, Assistant General Counsel, Pat Sabo, California Teachers Association
California Energy Commission
Ed O’Neill, Senior Advisor, California Public Peter Scheer, Executive Director, First
Utilities Commission Amendment Coalition
Advisory Committee Meeting on the Ralph M. Brown Act
May 28, 2015
Sacramento, California
Edi Birsan, City Councilmember, City of Dana Reed, Mayor Pro Tem, City of Indian
Concord Wells
Robert Blumenfield, City Councilmember, Allen Warren, Vice Mayor, City of Sacramento
City of Los Angeles
Sherry Diamond, Board Member, Arts
Council for Long Beach
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Appendix C
Results from Brown Act Survey of 271 Elected Officials from
Local Government and Special Districts
The Commission conducted a December 2014 opinion survey regarding Brown Act compliance
issues among local and regional elected officials throughout California. The Commission
survey was conducted via SurveyMonkey and emailed by the League of California Cities,
California State Association of Counties and California Special Districts Association to several
thousand city council members and mayors, county supervisors and elected special district
board members. The Commission received 271 anonymous responses to four questions – from
209 special district board members, 43 city council members and 19 county supervisors. An
percentage breakdown of their responses to the four Brown Act questions follows:
Q1. In your experience, how often if ever, does the Brown Act limit general policy discussions with
fellow board members about pending issues and affect the quality of decision-making?
Oft en Occasi onally Seld om Ne ver
Count Percent Count Percent Count Percent Count Percent
City Council 19 45.24% 12 28.57% 8 19.05% 3 7.14%
Board of Supervisors 9 47.37% 6 31.58% 2 10.53% 2 10.53%
School Boards 1 100.00% 0 0.00% 0 0.00% 0 0.00%
Special Districts 75 36.06% 68 32.69% 40 19.23% 25 12.02%
TOTALS 104 38.52% 86 31.85% 50 18.52% 30 11.11%
Total Response 270
Q1. How often, if ever, does the Brown Act limit
general policy discussion with fellow board members
about pending issues and affect the quality of
decision-making?
Often Occasionally Seldom Never
11%
38%
19%
32%
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Q2. Does the Act and its 2008 changes to limit discussion inhibit information gathering in a way that
affects quality of decisions and governing?
Oft en Occasi onally Seld om Ne ver
Count Percent Count Percent Count Percent Count Percent
City Council 11 26.19% 20 47.62% 7 16.67% 4 9.52%
Board of Supervisors 9 47.37% 7 36.84% 1 5.26% 2 10.53%
School Boards 1 100.00% 0 0.00% 0 0.00% 0 0.00%
Special Districts 62 29.95% 69 33.33% 44 21.26% 32 15.45%
TOTALS 83 30.86% 96 35.69% 52 19.33% 38 14.13%
Total Response 269
Q2. Does the Act inhibit information gathering in a way
that affects quality of decisions and governing?
Often Occasionally Seldom Never
14%
31%
19%
36%
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Q3. In general, does your legal counsel recommend a strict interpretation of the Brown Act to
ensure compliance?
Yes No
Count Percent Count Percent
City Council 41 97.62% 1 2.38%
Board of Supervisors 19 100.00% 0 0.00%
School Boards 1 100.00% 0 0.00%
Special Districts 184 91.54% 17 8.46%
TOTALS 245 93.16% 18 6.84%
Total response 263
Q3. Does your legal counsel recommend a strict
interpretation of the Brown Act to ensure compliance?
Yes No
7%
93%
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Q4. Should the Brown Act be modified or is it better to work within its present parameters?
No, it is better to work within
Yes, the Brown Act should be
the present parameters of the
modified.
Brown Act.
Count Percent Count Percent
City Council 31 75.61% 10 24.39%
Board of Supervisors 16 84.21% 3 15.79%
School Boards 1 100.00% 0 0.00%
Special Districts 124 61.69% 77 38.31%
TOTALS 172 65.65% 90 34.35%
Total response 262
Q4. Should the Brown Act be modified or is it better to
work within its present parameters?
Yes, it should be modified No, it's better to work within present parameters
34%
66%
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Appendix D
Views of Elected Officials on Brown Act Compliance:
A Sampling of Opinion
The Commission’s survey included three essay questions for special district board
members, county supervisors and mayors and city councilmembers to elaborate
anonymously on their responses. The following pages provide excerpts of comments
regarding Brown Act compliance issues in local and regional government and thoughts on
recommended changes – or not – to the Brown Act.
How Officials Define Brown Act Language as a Problem
Special Districts
We have had three different legal counsels in my six years on the board. Each has their own
interpretation of certain Brown Act requirements. It becomes very confusing. When legal
counsel cannot agree how does the layman proceed without violating the Brown Act?
It is very important that Board members be "allowed" time to discuss issues outside of a public
forum. I'm all for transparency and public input where appropriate, but the inability to share
information with other Board members, disagree, mull over an issue from a variety of
perspectives is critical for effective oversight and governance and this is best achieved while
NOT in a public meeting or on local television. Perhaps a more comprehensive list/broader
interpretation of "closed meetings" would help, so that real teamwork and understanding of all
implications of particular issues could be gained. The current Brown Act language is an
incredible impediment to thoughtful, thorough discussion and understanding issues, and I feel
that it negatively impacts our constituency, rather than helping, as I'm sure was the original
intent. This is a complex world with complex issues and the current structure adds to that
complexity.
Sometimes it's unnatural and awkward for board members to attend an event, and not be able
to say even some minor thing about the district in the presence of other board members.
We have gone to the point of not attending social events together to avoid the appearance of
impropriety. I am not sure this extreme is what Ralph (Brown) meant. But it is what is
happening to public boards everywhere. And it is a restriction/threat that more and more folks
don't want to risk, hence fewer people willing to become public board members of any sort.
Occasionally, there could be an improvement in outcome if board members could express their
feelings and or beliefs regarding a topic without exposing those feelings and beliefs to the
general public. Particularly, in considering "what ifs" and trying to get feedback from other
board members and/or staff in a forum where all of the board members hear the same
information.
Board members should be permitted to have interactive discussions to help clarify, consider,
and exchange information without making decisions on actionable items. Our board is so
careful about following the Brown Act, that decision-making is delayed, inhibited, and stunted.
Board members are afraid to talk to each other, even in strictly social settings. We live in fear of
accidental serial meetings.
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Sometimes it is helpful to talk to each other, either by phone, in person, or by email, between
meetings about pending issues and opportunities. When such discussions are prohibited, it's
harder to create a majority or to move things forward. Sometimes a board member votes in a
way that is contrary to what he or she intended, and an issue has to be brought back to the
board the following month.
Due to the limited discussion which inhibits information gathering I do not believe I can make
a fully-informed decision. I arrive at a decision due to my own gathering of information, but
then get to a meeting and hear information that is completely different from what I gathered. I
am left, at times where I do not feel confident in my voting decision. Therefore, I may vote no
or abstain. Many times the issue is continued. What is weird is once it is discussed at
meeting level, the directors or whomever are not allowed to continue the discussion or say
anything about it out of the meeting among themselves. Yes I think the law is limiting.
Besides, I feel confident members do discuss the issues outside the meetings.
I am the chairman of a small rural fire protection district, an independent non-enterprise
special district. We, the board members, often encounter each other at community potlucks,
school functions, etc. We're often asked by citizens about district issues at these functions. We
do not feel comfortable addressing these questions in an unagendized public or private
gathering.
I served on a city council before the new rules (1970/1980's) and now serve on a city council in
a different city. As well, I serve on a special district board. There is no question that we were
able to perform the people’s business better before the most recent changes.
Board of Supervisors
The act should allow all of the board members the ability to discuss policy issues along with
county operational issues openly as long as each board member does not express his or her
decision to the other board members. This will allow for a more informed decision by all board
members. As it stands now, many times the board members are not allowed the appropriate
amount of information or time to make an informed decision.
Mayors and Council Members
There is a public benefit to having local elected officials have the ability to have broad, policy-
focused discussions early in the decision-making process. The current rules aren't helpful to
small units of local government where the mayor is a rotating mayor (rather than a directly-
elected mayor or strong mayor). Having the ability to discuss, for example, whether or not to
consider a plastic bag ban is quite different from a discussion on a decision on a development
application or even a discussion on whether a specific provision should be in a plastic bag ban
that is pending for consideration. It also is harmful in dealing with developing issues, where
there is no clear consensus in the community and where there is a public benefit from having
the community's elected leaders discuss the issue as part of deciding whether or not it should
be placed on an agenda
Much of the discussion warranted to reach an educated discussion needs time outside of a
public meeting, and some feedback from another member of the city council. Those points
discussed, then expressed to the City Manager, help formulate a better public discussion at the
public meeting. This should be expressly allowed in an amended law.
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How Officials Would Change Brown Act Language
Special Districts
Change the wording related to "to discuss".
Allow for opportunities to explore possible ranges of policy with other board members without
being restricted. In a public setting, free exploration of all possibilities is severely limited.
Perhaps casual group exchanges without advance noticing should be permissible, as long as
they cannot result in official action and they are publicly accessible (recorded in writing, audio,
or video).
Revert back to the pre-2008 criteria.
Board members should be allowed to discuss in general terms outside of a meeting, issues
before the board. This would usually happen during public gatherings with other members of
the community.
Any discussions aimed at a substantive position or outcome of a decision or vote on a policy,
issue, rule, or agenda item should be prohibited the way they are now. However, the act
should allow and encourage discussions aimed at bipartisan non-biased dissemination of
information and explanation of issues and factors behind any decision or issue that might
come before the board, and certainly concerning any merely procedural issue.
Give it more flexibility to allow information gathering/sharing communications between elected
officials and staff with reporting and decision-making still occurring in public meetings.
It needs to allow some room for council members to negotiate and compromise.
Answering off the top of my head, maybe allow a certain amount of discussion outside of public
meetings and then require board members to summarize that discussion during a meeting so
that interested members of the public can have the opportunity to offer their input.
1. Needs to be updated to reflect the reality of blogs, email distribution lists, and social
networks which enable "sharing" of info and positions in ways that were not originally
anticipated. The Brown Act is written as if the only "public" forums are official meetings and
newspaper editorials. 2. We need to find a way to allow "brainstorming" discussions to happen
outside of the public eye. Elected officials are hesitant to think "outside the box" when any
comments or thought explorations are likely to be tomorrow's headline. On the other hand, it
IS important to limit consensus building or voting alliances from being developed in private.
3. I think the best approach would have two elements: (A): allow electronic discussions to
happen even outside of official meetings (i.e. blogs, social networks and email discussions) with
the stipulation that ALL such discussions between any elected official (not just when a majority
number is involved) should be fully available to the public. For example, any email or political
posting by any elected official would be automatically copied and posted to a city (or district)
website where anyone could easily peruse it. (B): allow elected bodies to have some incremental
amount of "closed door" sessions beyond the very limited ones allowed today. For example, an
elected body could have one annual strategy session where no decisions could be made, the
agenda would have to be posted (and followed), and the body would have to "report out"
afterwards, but the discussion could be done privately to encourage a free flow of ideas.
Essentially, this would amount to a VERY limited expansion of the list of allowed "closed"
sessions.
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Allow work sessions among board members and staff, with public attendance and input if no
action is taken. In my experience, the present Brown Act restrictions make it impossible to
have back-and-forth discussions of alternatives or to modify initial proposals to develop more
consensus-based programs. Allow individual discussions between board members to help
board members understand how issues are viewed and what others' priorities and agendas
might be.
The language should read: "...an act of fact finding, information gathering, or general public
contact involving two or more elected officials shall not constitute a "violation" of Brown Act
meeting rules only if the parties involved make it specifically known in a public forum and on
record that such discussions/activities had taken place..." To further this article, public
meetings can be attended by all voters alike, elected officials should not be excluded or
discriminated from attending and voicing personal opinions on public issues and be held to
answer Brown Act violation because of official position or elected status.
Ideally, eliminate the Brown Act. More realistically, there is probably nothing that can be done
to improve the onerous restrictions. But, allowing serial discussions would be a start.
Not quite sure how it should be modified because I recognize and value its intent. It just
makes transacting business a cumbersome and therefore inefficient process. There also seem
to be varying degrees of interpretation and adherence to the act across agencies. This is
understandable, yet frustrating and potentially creates vulnerabilities.
Board of Supervisors
Put together a working group through CSAC and the League of Cities to get input from the
various jurisdictions affected by the Brown Act for suggested improvements.
Allow for more discussion between multiple board members in advance of meetings, but should
require acknowledgement of those discussions prior to a board vote on the issue.
The ability to discuss a broader variety of topics in closed sessions would be helpful.
Mayors and City Councils
Rescind the 2008 changes. (2) Allow private discussions among councilmembers with the
proviso that the substance of the private discussions be publicly disclosed at the council
meeting.
It needs to permit the exchange of ideas and thoughts that the time limitations of a full council
agenda do not permit or encourage. If the exchange is by email there is a written record of
contacts and thoughts. A legal opinion from the AG on limits and permissions would free "risk
adverse" non-creative innovative suppressing counsel. It's little wonder there is very limited
creative thinking at the local level.
Modify the language so that newly elected officials and the public can understand language
without having to have a three-day workshop on how to follow the act.
The difference between information gathering and decision-making needs to be clarified. If two
council members go to a conference or serve on a committee and a third council member –
outside of a scheduled and noticed and agendized meeting – approaches and asks if anything
might be of interest to the city and a conversation ensues that involves 3 out of 5 council
members we could be breaking the Brown Act because a majority of the council is discussing
city business outside of a proper meeting. Can the words "to discuss" be modified?
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Posting a notice online and via social media should suffice for making public notices [for
public hearings involving proposed tax increases or assessments and proposed land use
projects] that otherwise show up in 8-point font in the back of a newspaper. Do we want to
subsidize the newspaper industry or reach the largest audience for public notices? If the latter,
do away with the newspaper requirement.
The Case for Making No Changes to the Brown Act
Special Districts
There is NO enforcement of violations of the Brown Act. Agencies violate with impunity so
what's the point of rewriting anything about it when it is not adhered to anyway? Serial
violations between agencies also seem to be tolerated.
It seems to be working just fine - it hasn't had any adverse effect on our board or meetings.
Nothing.
The current Brown Act works for my board.
The Brown Act works fine. It makes Boards discuss public issues in public.
I have found that most problems with the Brown Act enforcement result from a failure of the
organizational structure to understand its intent, implications, and rules.
In my experience boards are already not following the Brown Act. At this point to make it
easier to do the public business behind closed doors would be a huge mistake.
I am not in favor of any changes based on my experience. The Brown Act was intended, I
believe, to keep government discussions and decisions truly transparent and therefore open to
the public. I believe the act has served that purpose well.
I believe that the Brown Act is necessary for transparency in government and while it may take
additional time in order to make policy decisions, it is a necessary and vital "check" on
government bodies to make sure that the public's work is done in public. I don't see any
changes necessary.
I think the Brown Act works well to prevent decisions being worked on and made outside of the
public view. I don't have any problem with the existing prohibitions. They do not interfere with
the business of our district and the requirements ensure that district business is transparent.
To do this is just asking for another Bell situation.
The Brown Act works fine. It makes boards discuss public issues in public.
The open meeting law is fundamental to transparency in decision-making and is absolutely
essential. If the truth were told, all elected officials at one time or another have violated the
act. With the law in place as it is currently written, it forces elected officials to remain more
open than they would if such limits were removed. We've all managed to find our way within
the limits of the act and it is working just fine. It does not need to be fixed.
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Board of Supervisors
Once you get used to the goal of the Brown Act it is generally easy to follow.
Mayors and City Council Members
Our agency is accustomed to working within the Brown Act and do not find it restrictive. Its
intent to create transparency and open meetings is clear and meaningful to the general public.
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Appendix E
Ex Parte Practices of Selected Federal Government Agencies
Ms. Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli, Written Testimony
Little Hoover Commission, March 5, 2015
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Appendix
SUMMARY: Federal Agency Ex Parte Communication Policies10
Agency Posture toward Ex Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Exemptions Sanction
Parte Required Requirements Timing Burden from Provisions
Communications For (if Disclosure
specified)
Rec. Anti-general Recommended for Experiment with means “Promptly” --- Under the ---
77-3 prohibition post-NPRM written for disclosing oral ex Freedom of
and appropriate oral parte communications: Information
ex parte written summaries, public Act, 5
communications meetings, other U.S.C. § 552
DOJ Implements Rec. All post-NPRM Written summaries of “Promptly” --- Under the ---
77-3 written and oral oral ex parte Freedom of
ex parte communications Information
communications Act, 5
U.S.C. § 552
Post-NPRM
FEMA Implements Rec. All post-NPRM oral Written summaries of “Promptly” --- Under the ---
77-3 ex parte oral ex parte Freedom of
communications communications Information
Act, 5
U.S.C. § 552
10 This table provides a general overview of agency policies covered in the Administrative Conference Report “Ex Parte Communications in Informal
Rulemaking” (Final Report – May 2014). For more detail and specifics, see the Report, available at: https://www.acus.gov/research-projects/ex-parte-
communications-informal-rulemaking.
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Agency Posture toward Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Exemptions Sanction
Ex Parte Required Requirements Timing Burden from Provisions
Communications For (if specified) Disclosure
FCC Welcomes except All post-NPRM Written summaries 2 business days Communicator Under For any
during “Sunshine written and oral ex of oral ex parte after ex parte appropriate violation of the
Period” (with parte communications: communication legal ex parte
exceptions) communications must substantially (with some authority communication
convey content of exceptions) rules
oral ex parte
communications
CFPB Welcomes All post-NPRM Written summaries 3 business days Communicator Under For any
written and oral ex of oral ex parte after ex parte appropriate violation of the
parte communications communication legal ex parte
communications authority communication
policy
EPA Welcomes All post-NPRM Written summaries “Timely notice” Agency --- ---
written and oral ex of oral ex parte personnel
parte communications
communications that contain
that influenced significant new
EPA’s decisions factual information
The fact of ex
parte meetings
with senior EPA
officials
CPSC Welcomes Advanced notice Written summaries 20 calendar days Agency --- ---
of, and public of ex parte after ex parte personnel
attendance for, all meetings communication
oral ex parte
communications
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Agency Posture toward Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Exemptions Sanction
Ex Parte Required Requirements Timing Burden from Provisions
Communications For (if Disclosure
specified)
FEC Neutral All written and oral ex Written summaries of 3 business days Agency --- For any
parte communications oral ex parte after ex parte personnel violation of the
received by communications communication ex parte
Commissioners and communication
their staff after draft rules
NPRM circulated to
Commission for
consideration
NRC Neutral All written and oral ex Notice of meeting --- --- --- ---
parte communications with technical staff
with new information
DOL Recommends All post-NPRM oral Written summaries of --- Agency --- ---
minimizing post- ex parte oral ex parte personnel
NPRM communications communications
DOT Recommends All written and oral ex Pre-NPRM ex parte “Promptly” Agency --- ---
minimizing post- parte communications communications personnel
NPRM involving agency discussed in NPRM;
(Discouraged in personnel involved in memorandum to
practice) developing or docket; encourages
influence a advance notice and
rulemaking or public public participation
stakeholders providing in post-comment
information or views period ex parte
bearing on the communications
substance of a
rulemaking
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Agency Posture toward Ex Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Exemptions Sanction
Parte Required Requirements Timing Burden from Provisions
Communications For (if Disclosure
specified)
NHTSA Same as DOT Same as DOT Same as DOT Same as Same as --- ---
DOT DOT
FAA Prohibited during Same as DOT Same as DOT --- Same as --- ---
comment-period; DOT
strongly discouraged
post-comment period
USCG Discouraged generally All written and oral Pre-NPRM ex parte --- --- --- ---
ex parte communications discussed
communications in NPRM; other ex parte
communications discussed
in final rule; memorandum
to the docket
TSA Discouraged post- All post-comment Written summaries of oral --- --- --- ---
NPRM period written and ex parte communications
oral ex parte
communications
ED Discouraged post- Disclosure of all n/a --- --- --- ---
NPRM written and oral ex
parte
communications
generally
FDA Prohibited post-NPRM All written and oral --- --- --- --- ---
(with exceptions) ex parte
communications
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Agency Posture toward Ex Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Disclosure Exemptions Sanction
Parte Communications Required Requirements Timing Burden from Provisions
For (if Disclosure
specified)
DOI Prohibited unless all Any written or oral ex Written summaries --- --- --- For knowingly
interested parties or parte of oral ex parte making a
persons present communications communications prohibited ex
made in violation of parte
prohibition on such communication
communications
FTC Permitted post-comment All written and oral Written summaries --- Agency --- ---
period with advance ex parte or transcripts of personnel
public notice (oral ex communications oral ex parte
parte communications received by communications
only); Prohibited post- Commissioners and
comment period (oral ex their staff after
parte communications Commission vote on
only) NPRM
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Appendix F
Suggested Language to Amend Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act
Proposed Amendments related to the Bagley-Keene Open Meeting Act:
A new Section 311.6 of the Public Utilities Code is enacted to read as follows:
311.6 Notwithstanding the provisions of Section 11122.5 (b)(l) and (c)(l) of
the Government Code, members of the Public Utilities Commission shall be
subject to the following provisions regarding meetings:
(a) Except as authorized pursuant to Section 11123, any use of direct
communication, personal intermediaries, or technological devices that is
employed by a majority of the members of the commission to develop a collective
concuffence as to action to be taken on one item by the commission is prohibited.
This prohibition shall not apply to individual contacts or conversations between a
member of the commission and any other person.
(b) A discussion by a member of the commission of the merits of any item of
business within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission, including a
discussion of modifications to any proposed decision, ruling ot order, does not
constitute a collective concurrence if the member of the commission does not
disclose his or her decision or intention to vote on the item.
A new subsection 1701.3(f) shall be added at the end of Section 1701.3 of the
Public Utilities Code, to read as follows:
(f) The provisions of subsection (c) above shall apply in all proceedings
classified by the commission as quasi-legislative cases or ratesetting cases,
whether or not a hearing is required.
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Notes
1. Steven B. Quintanilla. February 1999. “The Ralph M. Brown Act Firsthand.” Western
City. https://www.cacities.org/Resources-Documents/Resources-Section/Open-
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Brown Act.” The Salinas Californian.
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3. David Minsky. December 17, 2014. “DA Clears Lompoc City Council of Brown Act
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4. Tim Sheehan. November 24, 2012. “Merced-to-Fresno high speed rail opponents
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Meeting Act.” Page 2. Sacramento, CA..
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13, 2015.
11. Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli. May 1, 2014. “Ex Parte Communications in Informal
Rulemaking.” Page 16. Washington, D.C. Administrative Conference of the United
States.
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https://www.acus.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Final%20Ex%20Parte%20Comm
unications%20in%20Informal%20Rulemaking%20%5B5-1-14%5D_0.pdf.
12. Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli. Consultant. Administrative Conference of the United States.
Washington, D.C. March 5, 2015. Written testimony to the Commission.
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California’s New Administrative Procedure Act.” Pages 297-298. Tulsa, Oklahoma. The
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14. Michael Asimow. See endnote 13. Page 305-307.
15. Westlaw. July 31, 1991. “Re Commission’s Rules of Practice and Procedure Re ex
parte. Decision 91-07-074 Rulemaking Proceeding 84-12-028.” 125 P.U.R.4th 1. (On
file).
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Meeting.” Page 3. San Francisco, CA.
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25. Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli. See endnote 11. Page 19.
26. Esa L. Sferra-Bonistalli. See endnote 12. Page 85.
27. Mark Baldasarre. President and Chief Executive Officer. Public Policy Institute of
California. San Francisco, CA. January 22, 2015. Written testimony to the
Commission.
28. Michael A. M. Lauffer. See endnote 18. Page 2. Sacramento, CA.
29. Robert Fellmeth. Executive Director. University of San Diego School of Law Center for
Public Interest Law. San Diego, CA. August 26, 2014. Written testimony to the
Commission.
30. Michael B. Day. Partner. Goodin, MacBride, Squeri & Day, LLC. Ralph Cavanaugh.
Energy Program Co-Director. Natural Resources Defense Council. Dr. Barbara
O’Connor, Ph.D. Consultant. William Kissinger. Partner. Morgan, Lewis & Bockius.
Dr. Barbara R. Barkovich, Ph.D. Chair. California Power Exchange. William Schulte.
Consultant. March 5, 2015. Written testimony to the Commission.
31. Michael B. Day et al. See endnote 30.
32. Michael A.M Lauffer. See endnote 18. Page 2.
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Little Hoover Commission Members
Chairman Pedro Nava (D-Santa Barbara) Appointed to the Commission by Speaker of the Assembly John Pérez
in April 2013. Advisor to telecommunications industry on environmental and regulatory issues and to nonprofit
organizations. Former state Assemblymember. Former civil litigator, deputy district attorney and member of
the state Coastal Commission. Elected chair of the Commission in March 2014, and re-elected in March 2015.
Vice Chairman Loren Kaye (R-Sacramento) Appointed to the Commission in March 2006 and reappointed in
December 2010 by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. President of the California Foundation for Commerce
and Education. Former partner at KP Public Affairs. Served in senior policy positions for Governors Pete Wilson
and George Deukmejian, including cabinet secretary to the Governor and undersecretary for the California
Trade and Commerce Agency.
Assemblymember Katcho Achadjian (R-San Luis Obispo) Appointed to the Commission by Speaker of the
Assembly John Pérez in July 2011. Elected in November 2010 to the 33rd Assembly District and re-elected to the
35th District in November 2012 and 2014. Represents Arroyo Grande, Atascadero, Grover Beach, Guadalupe,
Lompoc, Morro Bay, Paso Robles, Pismo Beach, San Luis Obispo, Santa Maria and surrounding areas.
David Beier (D-San Francisco) Appointed to the Commission by Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. in
June 2014. Managing director of Bay City Capital. Former senior officer of Genetech and Amgen. Former
counsel to the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary. Serves on the board of directors
for the Constitution Project.
Senator Anthony Cannella (R-Ceres) Appointed to the Commission by the Senate Rules Committee in
January 2014. Elected in November 2010 an re-elected in 2014 to the 12th Senate District. Represents Merced
and San Benito counties and a portion of Fresno, Madera, Monterey and Stanislaus counties.
Jack Flanigan (R-Granite Bay) Appointed to the Commission by Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. in April 2012.
A member of the Flanigan Law Firm. Co-founded California Strategies, a public affairs consulting firm, in 1997.
Don Perata (D-Orinda) Appointed to the Commission in February 2014 and reappointed in January 2015 by
the Senate Rules Committee. Political consultant. Former president pro tempore of the state Senate, from
2004 to 2008. Former Assemblymember, Alameda County supervisor and high school teacher.
Assemblymember Sebastian Ridley-Thomas (D-Los Angeles) Appointed to the Commission by Speaker
of the Assembly Toni Atkins in January 2015. Elected in December 2013 to represent the 54th Assembly
District. Represents Century City, Culver City, Westwood, Mar Vista, Palms, Baldwin Hills, Windsor Hills,
Ladera Heights, View Park, Crenshaw, Leimert Park, Mid City, and West Los Angeles.
Senator Richard Roth (D-Riverside) Appointed to the Commission by the Senate Rules Committee in
February 2013. Elected in November 2012 to the 31st Senate District. Represents Corona, Coronita, Eastvale,
El Cerrito, Highgrove, Home Gardens, Jurupa Valley, March Air Reserve Base, Mead Valley, Moreno Valley,
Norco, Perris and Riverside.
David A. Schwarz (R-Beverly Hills) Appointed to the Commission in October 2007 and reappointed in
December 2010 by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Partner in the Los Angeles office of Irell & Manella
LLP and a member of the firm’s litigation workgroup. Former U.S. delegate to the United Nations Human
Rights Commission.
Jonathan Shapiro (D-Beverly Hills) Appointed to the Commission in April 2010 and reappointed in
January 2014 by the Senate Rules Committee. Writer and producer for FX, HBO and Warner Brothers. Of
counsel to Kirkland & Ellis. Former chief of staff to Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante, counsel for the law firm of
O’Melveny & Myers, federal prosecutor for the U.S. Department of Justice Criminal Division in Washington,
D.C., and the Central District of California.
Sumi Sousa (D-San Francisco) Appointed to the Commission by Speaker of the Assembly John Pérez in
April 2013. Officer of policy development for San Francisco Health Plan. Former advisor to Speaker Pérez.
Former executive director of the California Health Facilities Financing Authority.
Full biographies available on the Commission’s website at www.lhc.ca.gov.
“Democracy itself is a process of change, and satisfaction
and complacency are enemies of good government.”
Governor Edmund G. “Pat” Brown,
addressing the inaugural meeting of the Little Hoover Commission,
April 24, 1962, Sacramento, California